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The Common Room / Latin translation of a Catholic marriage record
« on: Monday 16 August 21 15:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi folks,

Would anyone be able to translate this document for me please for Henry Quinn & Catherine Timmins.

Thank you in advance!


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Antrim / Re: McKillen family ANtrim
« on: Sunday 08 August 21 11:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi MissBea,

I have just come across your original post from some years ago, and I'm not sure if you ae still researching this line of your family, but I just thought I would mention that I am descended from the family Aghadowey mentioned in the 1851 census. Patrick McKillen (Blacksmith) & Jane Gribben are my 4x great grandparents, and I descend from their daughter Margaret. It would be interesting to know if you have had your DNA tested so perhaps we could see if we share a connection.

Hope this finds you well

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Lanarkshire / Re: RC Baptismal Sponsors
« on: Saturday 07 August 21 23:14 BST (UK)  »
Thanks both for your replies.

I have found this 1841 census for Cecilia Boyle. I'm going to attempt now to see if the James & Mary Smith she is lodging with are the James Smith & Mary Boyle named as Sponsors on her Baptismal record.


SMITH   James   M   55   Dealer   IRL   
SMITH   Mary   F   55      IRL   
BOYLE   John   M   20   Tin Smith   LKS   
BOYLE   Mary   F   20   Female Servant   LKS   
BOYLE   Cilica   F   8      LKS

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Lanarkshire / RC Baptismal Sponsors
« on: Saturday 07 August 21 18:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi folks,

Hoping for some help with a quick query.

Cecily Boyle was Baptised (RC) on 1st June 1828 at Glasgow St Andrew to John Boyle & Mary McCartney, and sponsors were James Smith & Mary Boyle.

I am curious who were usually the sponsors of someones child in the RC church? I am just wondering who this Mary Boyle could have been, because I assume the mother was not listed as a sponsor of her own child.

They also Baptise another child, James, on 21st January 1826, sponsors were Peter & Cecily Duncan/Durnan (or something similar), so I am also assuming that this sponsor Cecily, is whom John & Mary named their own daughter 2 years later, after.

Thanks,
Keelan

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Argyllshire / Re: Brick Wall nealry solved? Help please!
« on: Wednesday 09 June 21 16:35 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: wivenhoe on Tuesday 08 June 21 06:53 BST (UK)


Is this your family?

Census Scotland 1891 (Ancestry)    @  Millknowe Campbelltown   Argyll
COOK Hugh         68y     labourer                  b. Killean
COOK Margaret    61y                                   b. Kilcalmonell, Argyllshire
COOK Hugh         24y    son      butcher          b. Campbeltown, Argyllshire
COOK Flora          21y    dau    dressmaker     b. Campbeltown, Argyllshire
COOK Annabella   19y    dau    milliner           b. Campbeltown, Argyllshire
COOK Donald         4y    son                          b. Campbeltown, Argyllshire
CURRIE Flora       72y    visitor                       b. Kilcalmonell, Argyllshire

makes this death look interesting -

Using Scotlandspeople -   death

1894      CURRIE  Flora   age 74  m.m.s    HAMILTON   @  Campbelltown   507/ 181

Using Scotlandspeople, and variations of names,  I do not see this marriage -

Hugh McCOOK & Margaret THOMSON   
     

That is my family yes. I also cannot find the marriage of Hugh & Margaret.
There are some discrepancies in the information regarding their marriage given on the birth records of their children - 
18th December 1851 at Clachan, Kilcalmonell
12th May 1853, Tayinloan, Parish of Killean
October 1853, Killean Parish
December 1851 Killean Parish

Flora Currie was the first cousin of Margaret Thomson, as their mothers were sisters.

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Argyllshire / Re: Brick Wall nealry solved? Help please!
« on: Wednesday 09 June 21 16:20 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: GR2 on Monday 07 June 21 20:52 BST (UK)
I checked the on-line catalogue of the National Records of Scotland and there is a volume of minutes for Kilcalmonell & Kilberry kirk session covering 1821-33 and 1844-99. Its catalogue number is CH2/1423/1 It has been digitised and you can see it on computer screen in the NRS historical search room in Edinburgh and certain other archives in Scotland (Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Mitchell Library in Glasgow ...). It might be worthwhile e-mailing ScotlandPeople and asking if they plan to add CH2/1423/1 to the other virtual volumes on their site. Perhaps someone who is going to one of the archives might look it up for you.

Thanks so much for your help!! Any tips on what to look for in terms of a birth record for Peter, whether I rely more on the Thomson or MacTavish name? Or is it all dependant on the person who wrote the record?

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Argyllshire / Re: Brick Wall nealry solved? Help please!
« on: Monday 07 June 21 17:27 BST (UK)  »
I see I see, do you know where I might be able to obtain the kirk session records, if they are not available on ScotlandsPeople? Assuming of course that they have survived.

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Argyllshire / Re: Brick Wall nealry solved? Help please!
« on: Monday 07 June 21 16:13 BST (UK)  »
If I was to go by Scottish naming tradition, which I know wasn't always followed for whatever reason, then I see that Peter & Flora had two sons one in 1834 and one in 1835, both of which they named Duncan. I assume that the first born Duncan died in infancy. So i wonder if Peter's father was called Duncan as Flora's father was called Archibald. Flora's mother was called Ann, and her two daughters were named Margaret & Catherine, neither after their maternal grandmother.

Unfortunately as I believe Peter died before 1855, I am unable to see his parents details. And now finding the MacTavish connection hasn't helped me to locate his baptismal record as I don't know whether to search fro MacTavish or Thomson to help narrow it down.

And as of yet haven't found a death record for Catherine Thomson/MacTavish.

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Argyllshire / Re: Brick Wall nealry solved? Help please!
« on: Monday 07 June 21 15:50 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: wivenhoe on Monday 07 June 21 14:32 BST (UK)

What ages and birth place do you have for these three named?


Duncan dies 12th May, 1862 at Breckvar, a single man. Age given as 25. Parents - Peter Thompson, Herring Fisher & Flora Thompson m.s. Hamilton. Flora Currie (maternal first cousin) present.

Margaret married Hugh McCook/Cook 12th May, 1853 in the parish of Killean.
She dies 30th September, 1899. Married to Hugh Cook, Distillery Workman at Millknowe, Campbeltown. Age - 66. Parents - Peter Thomson, Seaman & Flora Hamilton. informant - Hugh Cook, son.

Flora dies 8th February, 1867 at Lady Mary Row, Campbeltown. Widow of Peter Thomson, fisherman. Age - 76. Parents - Archibald Hamilton, Country Workman & Ann Turner. Informant - Catherine Thomson, daughter, present

Quote from: wivenhoe on Monday 07 June 21 14:32 BST (UK)

Which of these three is your direct ancestor?

Do you have the marriage certificate for this ancestor?

Is Flora aged 70 at Census 1861, and married 1827 at age ~ 36 years?

Does Flora have children before this marriage, 1827?

Peter Thomson/MacTavish & Flora Hamilton are my direct ancestors, and their daughter Margaret (McCook) is my 3x great grandmother, her son Peter McCook is my 2x great grandfather and so on.

I have the date of Marriage for Hugh McCook & Margaret Thomson, but I can't find a copy of the record at the moment.

Flora was baptised 6th October 1793, to Archibald Hamilton of Achnalad, Kilcalmonell & Kilberry. So potentially 33 years old when she married Peter.

I haven't found any children to Flora prior to her marriage in 1827.

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