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Down / Re: Robert Gourley circa 1860
« on: Tuesday 06 April 21 20:03 BST (UK) »
continued
griffiths valuation continues in books held by the PRONI see
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books you can look them up for free
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1866 1878
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1879 1882
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1883 1894
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1895 1908
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1909 1921
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1921 1929
you can look up each and see changes eg did
going back to John Gourleys birth https://www.ancestryireland.com/ one of these might be him
GOURLEY JOHN 1836 Down
GOURLEY JOHN 1841 Down
GOURLEY JOHN 1850 JOHN Down
familysearch.org made me look at mary gourley b 1834 magherascouse how does she fit in
changing to Graces’s family
Jameson/ Jamison Ballywilliam Comber parishthe townland sits on the top left hand corner of Maghesascouse , southwards is Ballyrush adjoining Maghersascouse running down to Ballygowanbaalygowan townland is
John Jameson m
children
Grace Jameson possibly Ballywilliam
children
1. Robert Jameson / b 08/09/1859 baptism/registration 08/01/1860 Church of Ireland.
did he change name at Presbyterian marriage time in Gilnahirk to Grace Jameson whose father was John Jameson ?or when his young brother John b3 Jun 1865 robert later m Mary Jane Henderson
2. John Gourley b3 Jun 1865
from Comber directory
Ballywilliam, Jameson, John, Ballywilliam, D/654/A3/1B, Freeholders in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jameson, John, Ballywilliam, D/654/A3/1Q, Freeholders in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jamison, Eliza, Down: North Comber, 1st Presbyterian Church, Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jamison, Mary, Down: North Comber, 1st Presbyterian Church, Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jamison, Mary, Down: North, Tullynakill, Homes, Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
freeholders show 3 entries at PRONI one dates from 1798 please look up
Surname Forename Address ProniRef Details .
Jameson John Ballywilliam D/654/A3/1B More Details .
Jameson John Ballywilliam D/654/A3/1B More Details .
Jameson John Ballywilliam D/654/A3/1Q More Details .
stopping !
good luck Jim
griffiths valuation continues in books held by the PRONI see
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books you can look them up for free
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1866 1878
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1879 1882
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1883 1894
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1895 1908
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1909 1921
Magherascouse - Magherascouse Comber Down 1921 1929
you can look up each and see changes eg did
going back to John Gourleys birth https://www.ancestryireland.com/ one of these might be him
GOURLEY JOHN 1836 Down
GOURLEY JOHN 1841 Down
GOURLEY JOHN 1850 JOHN Down
familysearch.org made me look at mary gourley b 1834 magherascouse how does she fit in
changing to Graces’s family
Jameson/ Jamison Ballywilliam Comber parishthe townland sits on the top left hand corner of Maghesascouse , southwards is Ballyrush adjoining Maghersascouse running down to Ballygowanbaalygowan townland is
John Jameson m
children
Grace Jameson possibly Ballywilliam
children
1. Robert Jameson / b 08/09/1859 baptism/registration 08/01/1860 Church of Ireland.
did he change name at Presbyterian marriage time in Gilnahirk to Grace Jameson whose father was John Jameson ?or when his young brother John b3 Jun 1865 robert later m Mary Jane Henderson
2. John Gourley b3 Jun 1865
from Comber directory
Ballywilliam, Jameson, John, Ballywilliam, D/654/A3/1B, Freeholders in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jameson, John, Ballywilliam, D/654/A3/1Q, Freeholders in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jamison, Eliza, Down: North Comber, 1st Presbyterian Church, Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jamison, Mary, Down: North Comber, 1st Presbyterian Church, Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Ballywilliam, Jamison, Mary, Down: North, Tullynakill, Homes, Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
freeholders show 3 entries at PRONI one dates from 1798 please look up
Surname Forename Address ProniRef Details .
Jameson John Ballywilliam D/654/A3/1B More Details .
Jameson John Ballywilliam D/654/A3/1B More Details .
Jameson John Ballywilliam D/654/A3/1Q More Details .
stopping !
good luck Jim
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Down / Re: Robert Gourley circa 1860
« on: Tuesday 06 April 21 20:01 BST (UK) »
Hello again Fran21
the location of where the father John Gourley lived at the time of Roberts marriage was halfway along the Magherascouse Rd, in the townland of Magherascouse the closest village/town being Ballygowan . They lived about a mile and half NorthEast of Ballygowan
I looked entry up Griffiths valuation John Gourley
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=55&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=gourley&firstname=john&baronyname=&countyname=DOWN&unionname=&parishname=COMBER
you can look up each heading Details eg 1863 printed edition Original Page Map Views
Robert Gourley father was John Gourley farmer of Magherascouse townland
John ‘s farm map ref 15 in the townland consisted of
19 acres 3 rood and 25 perchs of land and a house valued at £1 fifteen shillings.
I don’t know what else you know ! Nevertheless in case it helps heres more info for you
To see the plot today go to google map find Magherascouse Road which runs from Ballygowan all the way to the old ballygowan Road . travel north on the Magherascouse . keep going past a lane on the left hand side then Loughview Road on the East side, the next turning on the west side of the divides into two lanes the right hand lane leads to the homestead original site via a sudden 90 degree turning north then use satellite view to see two buildings are visible possibly separated by a patch of Gorse?
I finiahed off a historical directory of Comber civil parish in 2008 , download free 30 mgbits
http://www.comberhistory.com/comber%20directory.pdf which doesn’t include the census
you will see the several references to Magherascouse in these entries for Gourley
but look up Magherascouse please.
Gourley, Comber Area Magherascouse Or Ballygown Area ReseArcher freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
, Roll Call Gcarse ‘At’ Burcom, Com, Au.
Gourley Agnes Jane Magherascouse Down: North Ballygowan Orange Hall & Church Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Elizabeth, Magherascouse Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourley, James, Drumkirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, James, Magherascouse Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourley James Magherascouse Down: North Ballygowan Orange Hall & Church Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Jane, Miss. Comber & Holywood Wife of William John Dugan; Mother of John B, 1865 & Mary B, 1871 CR, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, John, Comber Member of Ballygowan Flute Band In 1880 Photo, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, John, Drumkirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, John, Magherascouse Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourley, Joseph, Magherascouse, D/654/A3/1B, Freeholder in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Lizzie, Drumhirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), and Houses, Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Mary Jane, Drumhirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), and Houses, Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Mary, Miss. Comber Received a prize at Magherascouse School Presentation Oct 1898 Msch P20, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, Thomas, Ballyaltikilligan, D/654/A3/1A, Freeholder in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Thomas, Ballyaltikilligan, DOW/5/3/2, Freeholder in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Thomas, Drumkirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Thomas, Mr, Comber of Magherascouse; Led The Psalms At Ballygowan Presbyterian Church In 1838 Msch P11, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, Thomas-Ballygowan-Killinchy-Griffiths Valuation 1863?-Document1
/griffiths/down/killinchy.htm
Gourley, William, Crossnacreevy Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourly William Crossnacreevy D/654/A3/1N Freeholders in www.proni.gov.uk
end of part 1
the location of where the father John Gourley lived at the time of Roberts marriage was halfway along the Magherascouse Rd, in the townland of Magherascouse the closest village/town being Ballygowan . They lived about a mile and half NorthEast of Ballygowan
I looked entry up Griffiths valuation John Gourley
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=55&Submit.y=13&Submit=Submit&familyname=gourley&firstname=john&baronyname=&countyname=DOWN&unionname=&parishname=COMBER
you can look up each heading Details eg 1863 printed edition Original Page Map Views
Robert Gourley father was John Gourley farmer of Magherascouse townland
John ‘s farm map ref 15 in the townland consisted of
19 acres 3 rood and 25 perchs of land and a house valued at £1 fifteen shillings.
I don’t know what else you know ! Nevertheless in case it helps heres more info for you
To see the plot today go to google map find Magherascouse Road which runs from Ballygowan all the way to the old ballygowan Road . travel north on the Magherascouse . keep going past a lane on the left hand side then Loughview Road on the East side, the next turning on the west side of the divides into two lanes the right hand lane leads to the homestead original site via a sudden 90 degree turning north then use satellite view to see two buildings are visible possibly separated by a patch of Gorse?
I finiahed off a historical directory of Comber civil parish in 2008 , download free 30 mgbits
http://www.comberhistory.com/comber%20directory.pdf which doesn’t include the census
you will see the several references to Magherascouse in these entries for Gourley
but look up Magherascouse please.
Gourley, Comber Area Magherascouse Or Ballygown Area ReseArcher freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
, Roll Call Gcarse ‘At’ Burcom, Com, Au.
Gourley Agnes Jane Magherascouse Down: North Ballygowan Orange Hall & Church Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Elizabeth, Magherascouse Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourley, James, Drumkirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, James, Magherascouse Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourley James Magherascouse Down: North Ballygowan Orange Hall & Church Ulster Covenant 1912 in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Jane, Miss. Comber & Holywood Wife of William John Dugan; Mother of John B, 1865 & Mary B, 1871 CR, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, John, Comber Member of Ballygowan Flute Band In 1880 Photo, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, John, Drumkirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, John, Magherascouse Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourley, Joseph, Magherascouse, D/654/A3/1B, Freeholder in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Lizzie, Drumhirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), and Houses, Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Mary Jane, Drumhirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), and Houses, Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Mary, Miss. Comber Received a prize at Magherascouse School Presentation Oct 1898 Msch P20, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, Thomas, Ballyaltikilligan, D/654/A3/1A, Freeholder in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Thomas, Ballyaltikilligan, DOW/5/3/2, Freeholder in www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Thomas, Drumkirk Comber, Down: North, Comber, Square (The), Ulster Covenant 1912 www.proni.gov.uk
Gourley, Thomas, Mr, Comber of Magherascouse; Led The Psalms At Ballygowan Presbyterian Church In 1838 Msch P11, freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Gourley, Thomas-Ballygowan-Killinchy-Griffiths Valuation 1863?-Document1
/griffiths/down/killinchy.htm
Gourley, William, Crossnacreevy Householder in Griffiths Valuation ~1863 several websites have details Document1
Gourly William Crossnacreevy D/654/A3/1N Freeholders in www.proni.gov.uk
end of part 1
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Down / Re: Robert Gourley circa 1860
« on: Friday 02 April 21 11:51 BST (UK) »
just in case you are seeking further Gourley
from http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/G/Go.htm
ROBERT GOURLEY . Kilmood husband of Grace Jameson; father of John b. 3 Jun 1865 CR
Miss Ann/ Anna GOURLEY . Kilmood daughter of John Gourley; married James Carse 17 Nov 1849 aged 18; mother of Robert b. 1865 & Agnes b. 1870 & Thomas b. 1872 BVR; CR
Miss Ann GOURLEY . Kilmood mother of Thomas b. 15 May 1868 CR
Henry GOURLEY . Kilmood of Ballykeel ; leased a house & garden from James Ritchey in 1863 GV
James GOURLEY . Kilmood husband of Margaret Jane Carson ; father of Henry b. 2 Dec 1872 CR
Miss Jane GOURLEY . Kilmood wife of William Joseph Scott ; mother of William b. 1872 CR
Miss Mary GOURLEY . Kilmood wife of Thomas Kirk Gibson; mother of William Henry b. 1870 CR
Thomas GOURLEY . Kilmood son of John Gourley; aged 24, married Agnes/Nancy Carse 7 Oct 1848; father of Henry b. 23 Apr 1865 & Mary b. 4 May 1866 & Robert b. 7 Jan 1868 & Henry b. 18 Nov 1869 & Agnes b. 17 Nov 1870 & Martha b. 11 Oct 1872 BVR; CR
John Gourley b~1824 came to Kilmood? might be the line
could he be the son of or the same person as found in the Tithe Applotment books
Gourley, John-Townland: Crossgar Year: 1833-Kilmore-Down-
Gourley, John-Townland: Oughley Year: 1834-Saintfield -Down-
Gourley, John-Townland: Rathcunningham Year: 1827-Killyleagh-Down-
Gourley, John-Townland: Toye Year: 1827-Killyleagh-Down-
from http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/G/Go.htm
ROBERT GOURLEY . Kilmood husband of Grace Jameson; father of John b. 3 Jun 1865 CR
Miss Ann/ Anna GOURLEY . Kilmood daughter of John Gourley; married James Carse 17 Nov 1849 aged 18; mother of Robert b. 1865 & Agnes b. 1870 & Thomas b. 1872 BVR; CR
Miss Ann GOURLEY . Kilmood mother of Thomas b. 15 May 1868 CR
Henry GOURLEY . Kilmood of Ballykeel ; leased a house & garden from James Ritchey in 1863 GV
James GOURLEY . Kilmood husband of Margaret Jane Carson ; father of Henry b. 2 Dec 1872 CR
Miss Jane GOURLEY . Kilmood wife of William Joseph Scott ; mother of William b. 1872 CR
Miss Mary GOURLEY . Kilmood wife of Thomas Kirk Gibson; mother of William Henry b. 1870 CR
Thomas GOURLEY . Kilmood son of John Gourley; aged 24, married Agnes/Nancy Carse 7 Oct 1848; father of Henry b. 23 Apr 1865 & Mary b. 4 May 1866 & Robert b. 7 Jan 1868 & Henry b. 18 Nov 1869 & Agnes b. 17 Nov 1870 & Martha b. 11 Oct 1872 BVR; CR
John Gourley b~1824 came to Kilmood? might be the line
could he be the son of or the same person as found in the Tithe Applotment books
Gourley, John-Townland: Crossgar Year: 1833-Kilmore-Down-
Gourley, John-Townland: Oughley Year: 1834-Saintfield -Down-
Gourley, John-Townland: Rathcunningham Year: 1827-Killyleagh-Down-
Gourley, John-Townland: Toye Year: 1827-Killyleagh-Down-
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Down / Re: Alexander Gibson
« on: Tuesday 30 March 21 16:55 BST (UK) »
those replies inspired me to add, have you seen http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/dromore-parish.php originals in PRONI Belfast its just a one line entry name and taxable home or land etc
Gibson, David Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Geo. Townland: Backnamullagh Year: 1834
Gibson, George Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Henry Townland: Ballymagendless Year: 1834
Gibson, Hugh Townland: Leapoks Year: 1834
Gibson, James Townland: Drumbroneth Year: 1834
Gibson, James Townland: Skillyscolban Year: 1834
Gibson, John Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Joseph, Sr. Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Mary Townland: Drumbroneth Year: 1834
Gibson, Oliver Townland: Drumskee Year: 1834
Gibson, Robt. Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Thos. Townland: Leapoks Year: 1834
Gibson, William Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
have you seen just less than 30 years later http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/griffiths-valuation/parish-of-dromore.php
Gibson, Alexander L: Backnamullagh
Gibson, David L: Balleny
Gibson, David L: Ballymacormick N: David
Gibson, David L: Ballymacormick N: Will
Gibson, David L: Drummiller
Gibson, Elizabeth L: Drumskee
Gibson, George L: Balleny
Gibson, George L: Ballymacormick
Gibson, Henry T: Dromore - Hillsborough St
Gibson, Isaac L: Listullycurran
Gibson, James L: Drumbroneth
Gibson, James L: Skillyscolban
Gibson, John L: Edentrillick
Gibson, John L: Lappoges
Gibson, John L: Quilly
Gibson, Joseph L: Balleny
Gibson, Joseph L: Ballymacormick
Gibson, Mitchell L: Skillyscolban
Gibson, Robert L: Ballymacormick N: Will
Gibson, Robert T: Dromore - Hillsborough St
Gibson, William L: Backnamullagh
Gibson, William L: Ballykeel
Gibson, William L: Skeagh
Gibson, William, Jr. L: Ballymacormick
Gibson, William, Sr. L: Ballymacormick
try askaboutireland for much more detail on Griffiths including maps of townlands showing house boundaries if you are lucky then track a property owner/renter in PRONI continuation valuation books
Gibson, David Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Geo. Townland: Backnamullagh Year: 1834
Gibson, George Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Henry Townland: Ballymagendless Year: 1834
Gibson, Hugh Townland: Leapoks Year: 1834
Gibson, James Townland: Drumbroneth Year: 1834
Gibson, James Townland: Skillyscolban Year: 1834
Gibson, John Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Joseph, Sr. Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Mary Townland: Drumbroneth Year: 1834
Gibson, Oliver Townland: Drumskee Year: 1834
Gibson, Robt. Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
Gibson, Thos. Townland: Leapoks Year: 1834
Gibson, William Townland: Ballymacormick Year: 1834
have you seen just less than 30 years later http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/griffiths-valuation/parish-of-dromore.php
Gibson, Alexander L: Backnamullagh
Gibson, David L: Balleny
Gibson, David L: Ballymacormick N: David
Gibson, David L: Ballymacormick N: Will
Gibson, David L: Drummiller
Gibson, Elizabeth L: Drumskee
Gibson, George L: Balleny
Gibson, George L: Ballymacormick
Gibson, Henry T: Dromore - Hillsborough St
Gibson, Isaac L: Listullycurran
Gibson, James L: Drumbroneth
Gibson, James L: Skillyscolban
Gibson, John L: Edentrillick
Gibson, John L: Lappoges
Gibson, John L: Quilly
Gibson, Joseph L: Balleny
Gibson, Joseph L: Ballymacormick
Gibson, Mitchell L: Skillyscolban
Gibson, Robert L: Ballymacormick N: Will
Gibson, Robert T: Dromore - Hillsborough St
Gibson, William L: Backnamullagh
Gibson, William L: Ballykeel
Gibson, William L: Skeagh
Gibson, William, Jr. L: Ballymacormick
Gibson, William, Sr. L: Ballymacormick
try askaboutireland for much more detail on Griffiths including maps of townlands showing house boundaries if you are lucky then track a property owner/renter in PRONI continuation valuation books
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Down / Re: Bridget O'Hare - county Down Ireland
« on: Monday 29 March 21 20:16 BST (UK) »
your doing well heres my short contribution
tried https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
O'Hare Michael Eshwary Killevy Armagh
O'Hare Michael Sturgan Killevy Armagh
O'Hare Michael Drumintee Killevy Armagh
O'Hare Michael Carrickbroad Killevy
O'Hare Michael Lisdrumliska Newry Armagh
O'Hare Michael Camly (Ball) Newtownhamilton Armagh
O'Hare Michael Freeduff Creggan Armagh
O'Hare Michael Aghantaraghan Ballymore Armagh
O'Hare Michael Dorsy Creggan Armagh
there are more Michael O’Hare in Co Down see the website https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
there are no Matthew or Mathew in Co Down in Griffiths
http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/O/OHareLW.htm newry area entries difficult to define Armagh or Down Counties, but plenty of Matthew please do look up
tried https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
O'Hare Michael Eshwary Killevy Armagh
O'Hare Michael Sturgan Killevy Armagh
O'Hare Michael Drumintee Killevy Armagh
O'Hare Michael Carrickbroad Killevy
O'Hare Michael Lisdrumliska Newry Armagh
O'Hare Michael Camly (Ball) Newtownhamilton Armagh
O'Hare Michael Freeduff Creggan Armagh
O'Hare Michael Aghantaraghan Ballymore Armagh
O'Hare Michael Dorsy Creggan Armagh
there are more Michael O’Hare in Co Down see the website https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
there are no Matthew or Mathew in Co Down in Griffiths
http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/O/OHareLW.htm newry area entries difficult to define Armagh or Down Counties, but plenty of Matthew please do look up
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Down / Re: Emerald Ancestors Comber, Co Down Presbyterian records pre 1880
« on: Monday 29 March 21 17:59 BST (UK) »
You have undoubtedly done a lot of work so its difficult to know what you don’t know already, and therefor I am likely to repeating things well known to you.
I’m at the risk of doing this because in 2004-5 as I was doing my family history from Alton in England where I was looking after 3 children related to my wife with no chance of visiting Co Down, I started a Comber compendium in the form of a a dictionary type index with each townland, village and and last names , even with Comber itself broken into streets , and added townland maps all of which I thought could be added to by anyone else as a side interest which I rounded off by 2008 as I was answering queries on Gavin Wesson free ComberOnline.Org, which sadly disappeared as Gavin moved on in life. Gavin introduced me to Desmond Rainey during 2008 who helped me no end. its now
downloadabe from Comber Historical Society about 30 megabits as a directory of Comber parish. its by no means complete. I still have much to learn now aged 85 !
from the free http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/comber-parish.php#.VPAjYEt5kYU.
the originals are deposited with PRONI which just contain one line entries with possible taxation listed on home and land
Smith, Robert-Townland: Crossnacrievy Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, James-Townland: Magherascouse Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, John-Townland: Cattocks Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, Robert-Townland: Ballykeel Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, Robert-Townland: Monearea Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, Simon-Townland: Ringcreevy Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, William-Townland: Monearea Year: 1835-Comber-Down
griffiths valuation includes just
Smyth William Clontonakelly Comber Down which is very disappointing
lateral thoughts sometimes Presbyterians were buried in Church of Ireland graveyards
graveyards exist at Gransha Secessors and Moneyreagh Non Subscribing Ros Davies offers free look up for both and St Marys C of I
Checking the Presbyterian records held in PRONI and listed in their downloadable Guide to Church Records , which might save others repeating
N.S.P. Comber Baptisms, 1838-1904; marriages, 1838 45, 1848 and 1850-1971; notes on deaths, 1920-66; committee minutes, 1863-1911 and 1915-64; brief sketch of the history of the congregation, written c.1880; annual reports, 1866-1913.
N.S.P. Moneyrea
Marriage notice book, 1845-58; marriage notices, 1989-91.
Trust deeds relating to the church, 1719 1875.
P. 1st Comber
Baptisms, 1847-70; marriages, 1845-71. Marriage notices, 1883-1918.
P. 2nd Comber
Baptisms, 1852, 1862-71 and 1873 1921; marriages, 1845-1908.
Marriage notices, 1882-1900.
R.C. [Comber parish forms part of the Roman Catholic parish of Newtownards – see under NEWTOWNARDS]
I haven’t listed their microrecords references or their new digital transcriptions under preparation .
comparing the above with listing with Ros Davies Church records, I spotted the North of Ireland FHS (www.nifhs.org) has Gransha baptisms 1821-1921 & marriages 1822-1921 & deaths 1820-1846 & burials 1854-2000 ;graveyard attached,
you will have searched favourite Co Down website, but I checked under Smith just in case http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/S/SmythLW.htm and there are14 matches for Smith did you find anything spelt that way
there are 125 records for Smyth civil births recorded under ‘district’ Newtownards which includes comber see https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?etc etc Presumably similar for Smith
I did an index for Comber area in census 1901 and 1911 but didnt get permission to reproduce so didn’t offer to comber society otherwise my interest waned
I never checked for Andrws family records preserved privately or commercial thegirls mentioned might have had jobs within that employer range
good luck onwards and hope you are not caught in the queue outside the PRONI or https://www.ancestryireland.com which reminds me has free indexs examples to.
just for Smyth
Irish Birth/Baptism Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c. 1660-1930 5599 results
Pay-Per-ViewIrish Marriage Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c.1660-1930 5783 results
Pay-Per-ViewIrish Death/Burial Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c. 1660-1998 1344 results
Pay-Per-ViewNorthern Irish Gravestone Inscriptions 292 results [no Comber found]
Pay-Per-ViewBiographies of Members of the Irish Parliament 1692-1800 11 results
Free
Database Name No. Records
FreeGraveyards in Ulster 0
FreeMembers’ Research Interests 52 results [ no mention of Comber]
I encourage you onwards
I’m at the risk of doing this because in 2004-5 as I was doing my family history from Alton in England where I was looking after 3 children related to my wife with no chance of visiting Co Down, I started a Comber compendium in the form of a a dictionary type index with each townland, village and and last names , even with Comber itself broken into streets , and added townland maps all of which I thought could be added to by anyone else as a side interest which I rounded off by 2008 as I was answering queries on Gavin Wesson free ComberOnline.Org, which sadly disappeared as Gavin moved on in life. Gavin introduced me to Desmond Rainey during 2008 who helped me no end. its now
downloadabe from Comber Historical Society about 30 megabits as a directory of Comber parish. its by no means complete. I still have much to learn now aged 85 !
from the free http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/comber-parish.php#.VPAjYEt5kYU.
the originals are deposited with PRONI which just contain one line entries with possible taxation listed on home and land
Smith, Robert-Townland: Crossnacrievy Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, James-Townland: Magherascouse Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, John-Townland: Cattocks Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, Robert-Townland: Ballykeel Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, Robert-Townland: Monearea Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, Simon-Townland: Ringcreevy Year: 1835-Comber-Down
Smyth, William-Townland: Monearea Year: 1835-Comber-Down
griffiths valuation includes just
Smyth William Clontonakelly Comber Down which is very disappointing
lateral thoughts sometimes Presbyterians were buried in Church of Ireland graveyards
graveyards exist at Gransha Secessors and Moneyreagh Non Subscribing Ros Davies offers free look up for both and St Marys C of I
Checking the Presbyterian records held in PRONI and listed in their downloadable Guide to Church Records , which might save others repeating
N.S.P. Comber Baptisms, 1838-1904; marriages, 1838 45, 1848 and 1850-1971; notes on deaths, 1920-66; committee minutes, 1863-1911 and 1915-64; brief sketch of the history of the congregation, written c.1880; annual reports, 1866-1913.
N.S.P. Moneyrea
Marriage notice book, 1845-58; marriage notices, 1989-91.
Trust deeds relating to the church, 1719 1875.
P. 1st Comber
Baptisms, 1847-70; marriages, 1845-71. Marriage notices, 1883-1918.
P. 2nd Comber
Baptisms, 1852, 1862-71 and 1873 1921; marriages, 1845-1908.
Marriage notices, 1882-1900.
R.C. [Comber parish forms part of the Roman Catholic parish of Newtownards – see under NEWTOWNARDS]
I haven’t listed their microrecords references or their new digital transcriptions under preparation .
comparing the above with listing with Ros Davies Church records, I spotted the North of Ireland FHS (www.nifhs.org) has Gransha baptisms 1821-1921 & marriages 1822-1921 & deaths 1820-1846 & burials 1854-2000 ;graveyard attached,
you will have searched favourite Co Down website, but I checked under Smith just in case http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/S/SmythLW.htm and there are14 matches for Smith did you find anything spelt that way
there are 125 records for Smyth civil births recorded under ‘district’ Newtownards which includes comber see https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?etc etc Presumably similar for Smith
I did an index for Comber area in census 1901 and 1911 but didnt get permission to reproduce so didn’t offer to comber society otherwise my interest waned
I never checked for Andrws family records preserved privately or commercial thegirls mentioned might have had jobs within that employer range
good luck onwards and hope you are not caught in the queue outside the PRONI or https://www.ancestryireland.com which reminds me has free indexs examples to.
just for Smyth
Irish Birth/Baptism Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c. 1660-1930 5599 results
Pay-Per-ViewIrish Marriage Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c.1660-1930 5783 results
Pay-Per-ViewIrish Death/Burial Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c. 1660-1998 1344 results
Pay-Per-ViewNorthern Irish Gravestone Inscriptions 292 results [no Comber found]
Pay-Per-ViewBiographies of Members of the Irish Parliament 1692-1800 11 results
Free
Database Name No. Records
FreeGraveyards in Ulster 0
FreeMembers’ Research Interests 52 results [ no mention of Comber]
I encourage you onwards
35
Down / Re: Looking for details Warrenspoint
« on: Sunday 28 March 21 19:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Victoria,
from http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm did she marry one of the following July- Sept 1849 in Liverpool a James Dixon, William Dynam, Peter McClalland, Peter McClelland, Henry Peter Nicholls I chose Liverpool there are many other locations.
from another source http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm
Could her father have had a brother see Miss Mary Jane JONES Warrenpoint
daughter of Alexander Jones ; married Robert Green 1 AugCould this a relative Mary Anne JONES Warrenpoint wife of Edward Duncan; mother of Adolphus b. 1869 & Phoebe b. 1870 CR
and another Miss Mary Anne JONES Warrenpoint wife of Alexander Halliday; mother of John b. 1871CR
did she have a sister Miss Elizabeth Mary JONES. Warrenpoint daughter of James Jones ; married Arthur Philip Savage Wilkinson 20 Aug 1850 CR
could she have had a brother Hugh JONES Warrenpoint son of James Jones ; married Eliza Ann McMinn 4 Apr 1862CR
could she have had a brother Hugh JONES Warrenpoint husband of Anne Eliza McMinn ; father of Margaret Sarah b. 15 Apr 1865 & William John b. 26 May 1871 CR
could she have had a brother Robert Alexander JONES Warrenpointhusband of Margaret Elizabeth Mee; father of Frances Mary b. 7 May 1869 & Margaret Elizabeth b. 10 May 1871
CR
is this another relation William JONES Warrenpoint husband of Rebecca Hillard; father of Mary Jane b. 15 Aug 1871 & William b. 26 Apr 1873CR
is this another relation William JONES . Warrenpoint husband of Mary Jane Eakin ; father of Robert b. 2 Jun 1872 CR
james jones
my index to tithes applotment books includes these Jones these are one line journal entries just giving name and possible taxable property or landWareenpointis not mentione but keep an eye on nearby civil parishes
Jones, Alexr. Townland: Dromore Year: 1834 Clonallan Down
Jones, Alexr. Townland: Narrowwater Year: 1834 Clonallan Down
Jones, Arthur Townland: Drumcaw Year: 1828 Loughinisland Down
Jones, Arthur, Esq. Townland: Ballylough Year: 1829 Donaghmore Down
Jones, James Townland: Ballylough Year: 1829 Donaghmore Down
Jones, James Townland: Drumantine Year: 1829 Donaghmore Down
Jones, James Townland: Drummillar Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, Jas. Townland: Lurganbane Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, John Townland: Drummiller Year: 1828 Aghaderg Down
Jones, John Townland: Burren Year: 1834 Clonallan Down
Jones, John Townland: Aughnaskeagh Year: 1828 Dromara Down
Jones, John Townland: Ballysallagh Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, John Townland: Drummillen Year: 1834 Tullylish Down
Jones, John Townland: Drummiller Year: 1834 Tullylish Down
Jones, Miss Townland: Lisnegarvagh Year: 1834 Blaris Down & Antrim
Jones, Paul Townland: Tullindoney Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, Robt. Townland: Kinallen Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, Samuel Townland: Aughnaskeagh Year: 1828 Dromara Down
Jones, Townland: Ballyillymore Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Townland: Castlevenan Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Townland: Killiney Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Townland: Knockgorm Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Widow Sarah Townland: Tullindoney Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, William Townland: Enogh Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, William Townland: Mullough-Farnahan Year: 1833 Magherally Down
griffiths valuation around 30 years later has https://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php whose quick index has
Jones Robert A. Sea View,Warrenpoint Warrenpoint Down
Jones Mary Sea View,Warrenpoint Warrenpoint Down
Jones Hugh Dromore Warrenpoint Down
for more detail use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
hope that’s starts you
from http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm did she marry one of the following July- Sept 1849 in Liverpool a James Dixon, William Dynam, Peter McClalland, Peter McClelland, Henry Peter Nicholls I chose Liverpool there are many other locations.
from another source http://www.rosdavies.com/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm
Could her father have had a brother see Miss Mary Jane JONES Warrenpoint
daughter of Alexander Jones ; married Robert Green 1 AugCould this a relative Mary Anne JONES Warrenpoint wife of Edward Duncan; mother of Adolphus b. 1869 & Phoebe b. 1870 CR
and another Miss Mary Anne JONES Warrenpoint wife of Alexander Halliday; mother of John b. 1871CR
did she have a sister Miss Elizabeth Mary JONES. Warrenpoint daughter of James Jones ; married Arthur Philip Savage Wilkinson 20 Aug 1850 CR
could she have had a brother Hugh JONES Warrenpoint son of James Jones ; married Eliza Ann McMinn 4 Apr 1862CR
could she have had a brother Hugh JONES Warrenpoint husband of Anne Eliza McMinn ; father of Margaret Sarah b. 15 Apr 1865 & William John b. 26 May 1871 CR
could she have had a brother Robert Alexander JONES Warrenpointhusband of Margaret Elizabeth Mee; father of Frances Mary b. 7 May 1869 & Margaret Elizabeth b. 10 May 1871
CR
is this another relation William JONES Warrenpoint husband of Rebecca Hillard; father of Mary Jane b. 15 Aug 1871 & William b. 26 Apr 1873CR
is this another relation William JONES . Warrenpoint husband of Mary Jane Eakin ; father of Robert b. 2 Jun 1872 CR
james jones
my index to tithes applotment books includes these Jones these are one line journal entries just giving name and possible taxable property or landWareenpointis not mentione but keep an eye on nearby civil parishes
Jones, Alexr. Townland: Dromore Year: 1834 Clonallan Down
Jones, Alexr. Townland: Narrowwater Year: 1834 Clonallan Down
Jones, Arthur Townland: Drumcaw Year: 1828 Loughinisland Down
Jones, Arthur, Esq. Townland: Ballylough Year: 1829 Donaghmore Down
Jones, James Townland: Ballylough Year: 1829 Donaghmore Down
Jones, James Townland: Drumantine Year: 1829 Donaghmore Down
Jones, James Townland: Drummillar Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, Jas. Townland: Lurganbane Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, John Townland: Drummiller Year: 1828 Aghaderg Down
Jones, John Townland: Burren Year: 1834 Clonallan Down
Jones, John Townland: Aughnaskeagh Year: 1828 Dromara Down
Jones, John Townland: Ballysallagh Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, John Townland: Drummillen Year: 1834 Tullylish Down
Jones, John Townland: Drummiller Year: 1834 Tullylish Down
Jones, Miss Townland: Lisnegarvagh Year: 1834 Blaris Down & Antrim
Jones, Paul Townland: Tullindoney Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, Robt. Townland: Kinallen Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, Samuel Townland: Aughnaskeagh Year: 1828 Dromara Down
Jones, Townland: Ballyillymore Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Townland: Castlevenan Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Townland: Killiney Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Townland: Knockgorm Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, Widow Sarah Townland: Tullindoney Year: 1834 Dromore Down
Jones, William Townland: Enogh Year: 1834 Garvaghy Down
Jones, William Townland: Mullough-Farnahan Year: 1833 Magherally Down
griffiths valuation around 30 years later has https://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php whose quick index has
Jones Robert A. Sea View,Warrenpoint Warrenpoint Down
Jones Mary Sea View,Warrenpoint Warrenpoint Down
Jones Hugh Dromore Warrenpoint Down
for more detail use http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
hope that’s starts you
36
Ireland / Re: Crossan/Crosson/ brothers Glengad Donegal Ireland
« on: Wednesday 30 December 20 21:59 GMT (UK) »
its a big enough family that if Patrick has died could there be enough similarities to look at some similarities exist in 1901 census for two adjoining homesteads
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Carthage/Glengad/1184672/
71 in Glengad (Carthage, Donegal)
Crosson Mary 46 Female Head of Family R Catholic Co Donegal Spinner Cannot read Irish and English Widow -
Crosson Patk 30 Male Son R Catholic Co Donegal Fisherman and Farmer Cannot read English Married -
Crosson Mary 26 Female Daughter in Law R Catholic Co Donegal Shirt Finisher Cannot read English Married -
Crosson Mary Female Grand Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal - Cannot read - Not Married -
Crosson Fannie 20 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Shirt Finisher Cannot read English Not Married -
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Carthage/Glengad/1184673/ 72 in Glengad (Carthage, Donegal)
Crosson Ellen 50 Female Head of Family R Catholic Co Donegal Spinner Cannot read English and Irish Widow -
Crosson Lizzie 17 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Shirt Finisher Cannot read English Not Married -
Crosson Mary 18 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Seamstress Cannot read English Not Married -
Crosson Bridget 12 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Seamstress Cannot read English Not Married -
what do you think please?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Carthage/Glengad/1184672/
71 in Glengad (Carthage, Donegal)
Crosson Mary 46 Female Head of Family R Catholic Co Donegal Spinner Cannot read Irish and English Widow -
Crosson Patk 30 Male Son R Catholic Co Donegal Fisherman and Farmer Cannot read English Married -
Crosson Mary 26 Female Daughter in Law R Catholic Co Donegal Shirt Finisher Cannot read English Married -
Crosson Mary Female Grand Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal - Cannot read - Not Married -
Crosson Fannie 20 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Shirt Finisher Cannot read English Not Married -
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Carthage/Glengad/1184673/ 72 in Glengad (Carthage, Donegal)
Crosson Ellen 50 Female Head of Family R Catholic Co Donegal Spinner Cannot read English and Irish Widow -
Crosson Lizzie 17 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Shirt Finisher Cannot read English Not Married -
Crosson Mary 18 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Seamstress Cannot read English Not Married -
Crosson Bridget 12 Female Daughter R Catholic Co Donegal Seamstress Cannot read English Not Married -
what do you think please?