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Cornwall / a Cornwall/Devon geography question
« on: Saturday 04 August 12 20:31 BST (UK)  »
I'm from away. ;)

My gr-grfather was born in the Linkinhorne area c1850. His mother was baptised in St Stephens by Saltash. His father was born in Devon, but his (the father's) parents appear to have married in Cornwall.

In 1857, a batch of the younger children in the family, including my gr-grfather, were baptised in St Ive. In 1861, the mother and children were living in Plymouth; the father was probably in London but I can't find him. I've never found a marriage for the parents.

There were three children in the family older than the batch baptised in 1857. They were born about 1842-1845. The eldest of the three was supposedly born in Jersey but there's no trace of birth or baptism. The next two were born in Stoke Damerel, properly registered. The youngest of those three was baptised in London at the age of about 28, obviously in contemplation of death (he was already married).

And here I find the middle one being baptised in Torpoint at the age of five, after the 1857 batch in St Ive and before the 1861 census.

And my question is ...

The parents' address on the baptism record is given as Thanckes.

I see that in Torpoint today, there is Thanckes Park, and there are some houses called Thanckes (self-catering cottages in Portwrinkle, which are apparently modern builds).

Torpoint is in St German's reg dist, which doesn't show either Thanckes or Portwrinkle in its list.
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20germans.html
(I see on a map that Portwrinkle and Torpoint are on opposite sides of the peninsula.)
Nobody seems to give Than*s in Cornwall or Devon as place of birth in a census.


So ... what did it mean in 1860 when the parents' residence for the baptism in Torpoint was given as "Thanckes itp" (in this parish)? Was it a place, a house ...? Anybody know, or any ideas?

Thanckes! ;)

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Ireland / Morrison, born "Ireland", 1765-1770
« on: Thursday 26 July 12 19:34 BST (UK)  »
Is there any hope for me? ;)

My ancestor is shown in early English censuses with an age that equates to dob 1767-68. Luckily for me (or unluckily, depending on how much one likes those brick walls), he lived to a ripe old age, so I have this info.

His birthplace in both censuses is "Ireland".

His wife, 10 years younger, was born in an English county adjacent to the county where they are living. His children (baptisms are at familysearch) were born in the early 1800s in the English county where they are living in 1841, i.e. he was over 30 when the first recorded baptism for the couple took place (dates in the batch go back much further) and nearly 50 for the last. There appear to be no children of theirs in the censuses born anywhere other than that English county. I have found no info about the couple's marriage.

His given name seems Irish enough to me (i.e. I assume he was not a child of an English soldier), and there are numerous births in Ireland by the same name and surname once registration starts, but in a variety of places.

I suppose it's possible that the wife was the child of an English soldier and they married in Ireland. Her given name gives no hint. Heck, it's even possible that he was in the military and her father was in the military and they met and married in Canada or ... !

This is the only non-English root I have found in any line of my families, some of which I've got back to the 1500s in England. (There may be others, e.g. surnames in Cornwall that are common in Ireland and that I have not been able to trace in Cornwall beyond about 1800, but I'll cross those bridges when I come to them!)

So -- is the surname Morrison associated with any particular county or locale in the mid-1700s? Is there any general knowledge about Irish immigration to England circa 1790-1800 that would help me?

I've pretty much written this one off, but if anybody has any knowledge to share, I'd be grateful!

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Europe Resources & Offers / FRANCE surnames: geography and time periods
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 21:02 BST (UK)  »
http://www.geopatronyme.com/

The website is in French but it is relatively simple. Stick the surname in question in the search box and click the "Valider" button -- or just hit the "Enter" key.

You will get a map showing the distribution of the surname for a particular period.

You can click on the list beside the map showing time periods, e.g. 1891-1915, and the number of "nais.": naissances, or births, in that period.

Unfortunately, it starts only in 1891, and goes to 1990.

But it can give you an idea of the likely geographical source of a name. For example, searching in the earliest time period there for Canada's famous Tremblay shows 333 births concentrated in the northwest with none at all in most of France's départements.

For anybody with English or other foreign births in France in the last 120 years, they would stick out like a sore thumb.

I've kept hoping the site will move farther back in time, but in several years, that has not happened.

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