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I love my Firefox tabs. When I want to see what is at a link I run across while reading something, I open it in a new tab. This keeps material together for easy access, and means I don't have 100 windows open -- just 5 windows with 20 tabs each, say.

You do this by right-clicking on the link and selecting "open in new tab" (instead of "open in new window").

Sometimes when I do this at RootsChat, it works. This also applies to opening other links on the board, like opening the "Cornwall" forum list in a new tab while I'm reading a post in that forum.

Sometimes I get a pop-up box that says:

Transcriptions that you post on RootsChat must be your own work. Please read the Copyright notice. Click the COPYRIGHT link at the bottom-left of any RootsChat page. To open a link in a new window, press SHIFT and click the link.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what me wanting to open a link in a new tab has to do with posting transcriptions at RootsChat, or with copyright.

And I don't want to open a new window, thank you very much. I want to open a new tab.

Can someone explain the reason for this for me?

Or is it just some kind of glitch (especially given that it doesn't seem to happen all the time)?

This is a bit of a big ask ...

I'm looking for a person in these censuses who may not exist.

The place is Globe, Gila, Arizona. It's a small place about 60-80 miles due east of Phoeniz/Scottsdale/Mesa, otherwise in the middle of nowhere, that may have been a little bigger then than now -- somewhat over 10,000 population at that time. So it's reasonable to think it had a resident doctor. (It was a copper mining area -- where else to look for misplaced Cornishmen and their descendants?!)

The story is that there was a young doctor in town named Dr. Hale. He would presumably have been born about 1875-1900 or very slightly later. 1875 wouldn't make him "young" but I don't want to be too literal. Of course, if he really was "young", he might still have been at medical school in 1920 ...

I have seen on line that the local history museum in Globe is seeking donations of old city directories, so if no luck in the censuses I will try there, to see whether a directory or any other local record might identify a doctor or doctors in town at the time.

I've done the 1920 and 1930 searches at FamilySearch (whose transcriptions I trust more and where I can see full birth info) and checked them against the 1940 census (images showing occupations available free at Ancestry and FamilySearch).

On the basis of 1940 occupation, I have ruled out
- Robert D Hale (RD Hale in 1930)
- Forest Hale
- Lorenzo Hale

This seems to leave the possibles as

1920
- Albert E Hale 1888 England
- Henry H Hale, 1901 Texas
- Wm E Hale, 1888  Missouri (William 1886 in 1930)
- Fred F Hale, 1876 New York

1930
- William F Hale, 1902 Texas
- Wallace Hale, 1903 Texas

There is also a slight possibility his name was Hill. In 1940, I have ruled out
- Thomas Hill, 1900 Texas
- William Hill, 1878 Missouri
- Rowland (Rouland) Hill, 1902 Arizona (Rawley in 1930)
- Belton S Hill, 1880 Texas (in Miami, BS in 1940)
- Eugene Hill, 1893 Texas

So that would leave

1920
- Paul Hill, 1902 Illinois
- Clarence C Hill, 1880 England
- John Hill, 1884 Finland

1930
- Dewitt T Hill, 1900 Texas
- L S Hill, 1883 Arkansas
- James Hill, 1901 Texas
- James E Hill, 1901, Texas
- Walter D Hill, 1888 Indiana

and actually Belton S Hill in Miami is still a possibility (1940 occupation is "gathering statistics" in public schools in Phoenix).

Some of them may be elsewhere in Gila county, as not all locations are identified at FS in 1920, e.g.

The question is whether one of them was a doctor in 1920 and/or 1930 (or looked like they might be a doctor in a couple of years, in 1920).

If someone feels like taking a poke at one or more of those lists -- looking at the images and checking the occupation -- I would be hugely grateful.

I hope it's okay to put this request here -- Cornwall place names is a bit of a specialty subject so I thought it better here than on the deciphering board.

It's the place name above Torpoint in the lower right of the image. I've left other entries in the snippet for handwriting comparison (e.g. it doesn't look like the "L" in "Labourer"), although the place name may be obvious to someone with local knowledge. The census location is St Cleer.

Lemoran? Anc'y transcribes it as Lemaran ... (Not Lamorna, which is way in the wrong part of Cornwall.)

I did glimpse a Lemellan Woods near St Cleer when searching at Google maps, but now can't find it again (in the row of woods to the south and west of St Cleer, I think it was). And Google maps won't prompt me with anything useful.

My only chance to get birthplace info for somebody who may be my gr-gr-gr-grandparent! Many thanks if anyone can tell me.

Many thanks for all the info!



In the last week of August, just after a particularly dreadful birthday, I met up with my best friend from high school whom I hadn't seen in, oh, 35 years. I had finally found a trace of her on line in mid-August, and as it happened that I was going to southern Ontario the next week, she came to visit ... and we stayed up late that night while I made a start on her family tree, which she'd been messing around with but without the experience that makes short work of it in a lot of ways. I've been continuing the process since then.

Her mum, with whom she had had a life-long difficult relationship, died this past Friday evening. Some of the work I had done helped her put together the family info for the obituary.

So in one line, I'm back to this couple and I'm pretty sure I've got their parents identified, but I'd like to know what the marriage record says to be sure, of course.

I don't have Canada records access at you know where, and the marriage is not to be found at familysearch, at least by me.

Hiram E Young + Flora Beaton, 1869, Kent County (likely in Howard)

There are two indexes:
Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
Ontario, Canada, County Marriage Registers, 1858-1869

The record in the first index seems to be messed up since I can only get the search engine to agree that the groom's father was Russell. (I've had a struggle identifying Hiram's parents since the relevant bit of the 1852 census seems to have been destroyed; I arrived at Russell and Fanny by process of deduction from other info known.)

In the second index, it appears to agree that the groom's parents were Russell and Fanny, and the bride's father was John (I believe her mother was Flora, so a keyword exact search won't distinguish that, and it doesn't seem to agree that the mother's surname was Campbell). The groom reported in one record that his father was born in the US and his mother in Quebec, and the bride's parents were born in Scotland, but both spouses would have been born in Ontario.

I'd be very, very grateful for the full names of both spouse's parents and any other info the record might disclose.

Hello! I'm wondering whether anyone is familiar enough with Plymouth (St Andrew) that they can tell me where to look on a modern map for this area as described in the 1861 census, and maybe can tell me something about the area around that time:

Devon > St Andrew > District 13
Part of the Parish of St Andrew
The North side of Frankfort Street and King Street from the corner of Russell Street to Pontey's Gate -- Cambridge Street both sides, as far up on the West (or lefthand side) as the turning into Cambridge Lane West; and on the East (or righthand side) as far as Morley Street -- thence along the South side of Morley Street, to, and along the West side of Russell Street -- including Willow Street and Plot -- Arch Street and Morley Lane.
(The district is 72 pages long, so it was rather densely populated, I would think.)

The only one of those street names I can find on a modern map is King Street, and without some association with any of the other names, I have no idea whether it would be the same street today, even.

Reading the nearby district descriptions at Ancestry,
- District 12 includes York Street, Richmond Street and Lane, Cobourg Street and Lane, and William Street and Lane
- District 14 includes Russell Street, Richmond Street, Cobourg Street, Saltash Street, Drake Street (and then through the Market diagonally), Cornwall Street, Mill Lane, Milton Street, Richmond Lane South

I have found a Cobourg Street, a major artery, with a Cornwall Street a couple of blocks south of it, and Market Stalls/Pannier Market at the west end of Cornwall Street. There are various loopy kinds of streets around Cornwall Street that Google doesn't seem to bother giving names for. Ah, and a few blocks south of the east end of Cornwall Street, there is a Russell Court. Google maps seems to call the area Barbican.

But I just can't find any two of these streets paralleling or crossing each other so I can situate myself!

I've tried looking at what I think is the area on an 1867 ordnance survey map,
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55114&sheetid=2536&zm=1&x=464&y=230&ox=4296&oy=1592
but even at max zoom it's kinda illegible. I have the impression that where it shows what I think is Cobourg and George Streets meeting up, that is the modern intersection of Cobourg and Western Approach, with Princess Street several blocks south of that intersection on both maps.

So I think that's the area I'm looking at: bounded today by Western Approach, Cobourg Street and Notte Street. Presumably the name of Russell Court (a commercial building of some sort? corner of Palace Street and St Andrew Street) is related to Russell Street.

In 1861, there is a Prince of Wales Arms on Russell street, and it's that vicinity where my people were (only for that one census, being previously in Cornwall and subsequently in London), in what seems to be a multi-family building. I'm just wondering what the area was like, basically.

If there are any locals around with a bit of historical geography knowledge to pass on, I'd be very grateful!