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Gloucestershire / Re: Did they marry?
« on: Thursday 31 December 15 15:36 GMT (UK)  »
In 1841  there is a Hester Osbourne aged 30  Dressmaker b abt 1811  living Old Park Lane, St Michael Bristol with here daughters:  Emma  Osborne  b 1826 and Louisa  b 1828.  These fit with the names you have, but this Hester is likely to be  Hester CROOK who married William OSBOURNE  in Philip and Jacob in 1825.

Emma Osborne dau of Hester and William baptised St Augustine  9 April 1826
Louisa Osbourne dau Hester and William baptised  St Micheal  30 November 1828


However, there is a baptism in Bristol for a Hester Osbourne in Bristol in 1815:
Hester Osbourne dau of James and Ann  baptised Philip and Jacob, Bristol   29.10.1815. 

Can't find a James Osborne marriage to an Ann in Bristol, but I did find this:

I have found one likely marriage in 1811  Redruth Cornwall  25 April 1811
James Osborne  married Ann Mitchell (widow) no ages given.
Grooms parish is noted as  'Sojourner'  i.e a temporary resident.  If he was a seaman, (which would certainly make him a Sojourner),  he might have moved up to Bristol by the time Hester was baptised in 1815

I can find no Osbourne/Coole marriage in Bristol (although both names occur there)

(A George Cole married Hester STREET in 1825 but as she was a spinster she cannot be Hester Osborne)

Any chance that Hester Osborne who married George was in fact a widow when she hooked up with him,  this would possibly make her Hester Crook by birth - while not noted on the Census as a widow in 1841, she is head of the household.

Finally, I wonder if Hester and George may have run away together as I have found these marriages in the Circencester District, so far it's the only connection I can make to Osbourne/Coole surnames: 

Name    Hester Osborne  married William Jones
District    Cirencester, Gloucestershire   December 1840  Vol 11 Page    0349

Name  George Coole  married Elizabeth Knight or Jane Maysey 
District    Cirencester, Gloucestershire  June 1841  Vol 11 Page 301


Found the family living in Cheese Lane Philip and Jacob  in 1851  George is a Brass founder and his wife noted as Esther Cole  born Philip and Jacob 1812.  Can't seem to find them thereafter.


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The Common Room / Re: Help need finding recipient of old postcard.
« on: Wednesday 30 December 15 18:29 GMT (UK)  »
Checking 1911 census  there are no Martins living on Williams Rd Ealing.  Infact no one listed as living at No 10, so it may have been unoccuppied....

1891 Census shows Edward  living at 10 Williams Road, Twyford Abbey Ealing, Brentford, Middlesex, working as a Carman - living with his wife Emma, sons Henry & Percy & daughter Jesse.

Also broading with them in 1891 is one Harriet Martin aged 23,  born in the same place as Edward  (Stambourne Essex) so might this be his sister/cousin, maybe the H Martin  he was hoping to find living at no 10 Williams Rd.

Seems unlikely he would not have been on active service, given his age.  The only circumstance might have been if he was an 'Old Contemptable'  i.e and old soldier on reserve, then he may have re-enlisted and have been used in some capacity (like training) because of this previous experience.  Otherwise, unless the postcard indicates military service specifically, he may have gone to France as a civilian to help in a non-combatant role, though that would been highly unusual....

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Fife / Re: Looking for place-name probably Forgan/Balmarino area
« on: Friday 04 December 15 13:35 GMT (UK)  »
Might it be  a garbled version of  Mountquhanie House  or  Mountquhanie Home Farm  or Mountqhanie Castle  2.2 miles from Balmerino near Kilmany/Cupar:

Photo  Mountquhanie House:
http://www.visitdunkeld.com/Fife%20Scotland%20Mansion%20Houses/pages/Mountquhanie%20House%20Fife%20Scotland_JPG.htm

Montquhanie Castle:  http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/sc-8834-mountquhanie-castle-kilmany

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The Common Room / Re: Half price sub for FindMyPast
« on: Friday 27 November 15 14:33 GMT (UK)  »
 Yes, does work for World as well.  Thanks for head's up :)!

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The Common Room / Re: Meaning of "signature of the lands" in Scotland?
« on: Thursday 26 November 15 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
The think it can be either ownership or lease.  Historically,  as far as I know, a signature is a document written by a clerk of the Signet, as the warrant for a Royal grant, this can be land or other rights given by Royal assent.  The Signet was the smallest of the four Royal Seals.  So yes, I would imagine 'a signature of land' would mean the named person or persons had been granted lease or ownership by a sealed Royal warrant.
A signature is required for any land document to be legal, so it could be a common phrase affirming due legal process with regard to land transactions.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Thomas Ballenger
« on: Thursday 19 November 15 12:35 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry that was the wrong family.   If they emigrated:

Try the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild site:   
http://www.immigrantships.net/v8/surnamesv8/spla_v8.htm
Or:
Castle Garden:  http://www.castlegarden.org/

Canadian Passenger Lists: from 1865 (so might not help)
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/introduction.aspx

Australia:  Ancestry holds passenger lists but you could try here:

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/research-topics/immigration/immigration

I did find a Thomas Ballenger who got 7 years transportation for stealing  aged 23  (born 1809)
Date    28 Mar 1832    Prisoner number    5567  Court Gloucester.  This may be the same person as the labourer from Bishops Cleeve noted on Ancestry- which confudingly gives date of March 21 1833.  I dismissed them as your Thomas turns up on the 1841 Census in Painswick, but I suppose he could have returned by then.  I will try and see if I can find the cases in newpapers, and if I can explain the different dates. Do you know your Thomas' occupation?

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Gloucestershire / Re: Thomas Ballenger
« on: Wednesday 18 November 15 12:14 GMT (UK)  »
Chempat. yes you're right, not the right one.  However I think I may have found the family living 50 Alvin St Gloucester in 1861.  Sent a PM.  I found a bap 1808  for Thomas  in Churcham with Bulley, this appears to be the same as the Thomas living Alvin St.  He's married to a Mary Ann, also born Churcham.

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Gloucestershire / Re: Thomas Ballenger
« on: Saturday 14 November 15 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
I'll send you a PM with details, but in 1861 a Thomas & Ann Ballenger  living Winchcombe St, Cheltenham.  He is a grocer by trade.  The reason you may not have found them is his birthdate 1807  Westbury on Severn and son is Frederick George. 

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Travelling People / BURDEN/KALAKER Family Surrey/London
« on: Monday 12 October 15 11:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I've just discovered a branch of my Tovey family who moved from Winchcombe to London, married into what I believe may be a travelling/romany family:
Alice Maud Tovey b 1884 Winchcombe  married Harry T Burden in Islington 1911.  I believe they had at least one daughter Irene L M Burden in 1913.

Harry T Burden was born 1887  Walworth Surrey and is the son of  Daniel BURDEN b 1863 and Ellen KALAHER/CALAHER b 1863.  Daniel and Ellen married St Olave Southwark 1882.  Daniel is variously described as a 'Hawker/Gen Dealer'.

Ellen is the daughter of  Wm and Julia CALAHER.... I understand this surname has various spellings and that with a 'K' denotes English spelling whereas with a 'C' may indicate the family is Irish.  I have found both in regard to Ellen...
Daniel the son of Henry and Caroline.....father in 1871 'Hawker'.  In 1871,  the whole family is stated as having been born in 'Newington'  - presumably Newington, Southwark, Surrey.  That happens to be where they are living in 1871, so might not be 100% accurate.
I'd be interested in hearing from anyone with links to Harry T Burden.

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