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Completed Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« on: Wednesday 20 July 05 13:05 BST (UK)  »
Aren't you a peach! My Gordons have been a real curse.

Okay....so....any sign of Colin Campbell Gordon (born Jan 3 1878) as being still in Leicester in 1901? He married Mary Anne Wooley, we think about 1897 in Leicester. We presume a shotgun wedding, due to his very young age at marriage.

My grandfather, George Edward Gordon, was born in Leicester April 28 1898. His sister Lillian was born in 1899, and brother Campbell about 1900.....there were a total of seven children we know of born to the marriage, but we don't know when they emigrated, so I'm not sure which were born in the UK and which on this side of the Atlantic - we know Georgina, the youngest was born here in Ontario...since she was named after my grandfather, her big brother George, who was then away in WWI. Bit of an odd way to name a child, or what - a George and a Georgina like bookends on the children.

Mary Ann Wooley was born in 1874 according to her headstone which has no specific date (one of those silly flat bronze things in the ground, and the cemetery office in London Ontario has a specific date of death but not birth in their files). She may have been from Rutland, and a possible but not confirmed pair of parents for her are George Wooley and Jane Pyket. I haven't been able to find any other likely parents for her so far - we were told her father was a George.

Here is my file, with the living stripped out.
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=mary_g

Anything I can search up for you in Canada, let me know!

Mary G.


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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: Is There a census record
« on: Wednesday 20 July 05 02:02 BST (UK)  »
There is one on line for Dirleton 1861 so there must be others.
http://members.aol.com/eastlothiangen/dirleton.html

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Completed Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« on: Wednesday 20 July 05 00:49 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much! Poor wee Mary must have died.

Mary G.
Toronto

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Completed Leicestershire Lookup Requests / 1891 lookup please! Gordon
« on: Tuesday 19 July 05 19:54 BST (UK)  »
My 2G grandfather was a John Gordon, a Scot (not sure where from but born about 1847) who lived in Leicester. He was a draper and was living in Nuneaton at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Muir in Largs in 1872. They show up in the 1881 census living in Leicester, St. Margaret, at 166 Humberstone Road with children Janet, Robert, Mary, Colin, Lillian and Elizabeth. Also with the family at that time, a servant Emily Tattersall, and brother in law John Muir, a hosery manufacturers clerk.

Can someone have a peek at the 1891 or 1901 census and see what's what with this family? I don't know if there were further children born to the family - the names I have were all from the 1881 information. Colin was my great grandfather, and he appears to have emigrated to Canada around 1900 or so, thus contact was lost by my father's generation and there is no one alive to ask!

Mary Gordon, Toronto

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Renfrewshire / Re: Greenock 1881 and 1901 census look up
« on: Tuesday 19 July 05 19:28 BST (UK)  »
Intensely stupid question, but how do I look at a private message?

Mary G.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Greenock 1881 and 1901 census look up
« on: Tuesday 19 July 05 17:39 BST (UK)  »
It was a MARY Carr her married on April 25, 1899 not a Jane. She was a merino wool mill worker. Her parents were a Roderick Carr and a Mary O'Donnell, and she was 24 at the time of her marriage.

What does it say about Thomas Leith White in 1901 - was his wife alive? The family story was she died in childbirth - but seeing how I only found out her name this week, I haven't found when she died as yet.

His second wife was my great grandmother Lizzie Brymner, who was a servant. What is really interesting about their 1906 marriage registration is that I don't think either Lizzie or Tom knew at the time they were illegitimate. Lizzie's mother was Jane Brymner/Bremner born 1855, mother of two - Lizzie and brother John, and she was never married as far as we can tell (she lived with her children and her father James Brymner, a ships carpenter and widower).

She's another bit of mystery, since I can't find record of her death in Greenock, and she's not buried with her parents in Greenock (I went to the cemetery in 2000 to look through their records). She must have gone elsewhere, unless she married late in life. 

On her marriage registration, Lizzie said her mother was a Jane Robertson and her father a John Langan Brymner, which was fictional as it was strictly Jane Brymner from birth - but Liz told the same story to her children, so I wonder if she actually knew the truth. Same goes for Thomas. On both marriage registrations registration, he says his mother was White ms Leech, but she was never legally married to Mr. White, so it was really Cassidy ms Leech.

One more question - my great grandparents were married at Tom's residence on Rue End Street April 3 1906 - a few weeks after the birth of my grandmother Mary Leitch White (born March 14, 1906). Would this be a face saving way to hide the fact they'd had a child, or related to her lying in? I wondered why they wouldn't have gone to the local church or chapel to marry.

They have may have gotten off to a disreputable start but they went on to have 9 children together and had been married 59 years when Lizzie passed away in Kingston, Ontario, Canada in 1965.

Mary G.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Greenock 1881 and 1901 census look up
« on: Tuesday 19 July 05 00:42 BST (UK)  »
Just found the record for Thomas Leitch White's first marriage in 1899 to a Mary Carr. According to the registration, his mother Mary Leech/Leitch was married to a Cassidy (her surname is given as Mary Cassidy ms Leech (his parents were never married, and his biological father, Thomas White of Gortfad, Ballymena is listed as deceased). I did some searching today and now find she married James Cassidy in Greenock in 1875, when Thomas was a year old. I'm wondering if Thomas White as a child might be under Cassidy as a surname.

I suspect they were very poor and he went out to work very young.

Mary G.

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Renfrewshire / Greenock 1881 and 1901 census look up
« on: Monday 18 July 05 19:28 BST (UK)  »
Hoping someone can give me a hand. My great grandfather, Thomas Leitch White was born in Ballymena Ireland June  of 1874. His parents were not married - his mother was a Mary Leech/Leitch from Portglenone, and his father was Thomas White, a weaver from Gortfad.  At some point in childhood, he ended up in Greenock, presumably with his mother. He definitely thought of himself as a Scot, and had a Scots accent all his life, so I'm guessing he was in Scotland fairly early in his life. Family story has it his mother ultimately did marry someone, but we don't know who he was. Can anyone with access have a look and see if you can find our Tom as a child on the 1881 census?

Our second mystery is that when our Tom married my great grandmother, Lizzie Brymner in Greenock at his residence on 29 Rue End Street in 1906, just prior to emigrating to Canada, he was a widower. Any sign of him on the 1901 census? We don't know the name of his first wife.

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