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World War One / Re: A blacksmith from Arbroath in WW1 - any particular unit or battalion?
« on: Friday 26 April 13 09:39 BST (UK) »
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Aberdeenshire / Update: Bogend, Shiels, Midmar Parish, Cluny (1891 Census among other sources)
« on: Friday 26 April 13 06:34 BST (UK) »
A small update.
On some family records, Bogend is described as Bogend, Shiels.
Looking at a copy of the Ordnance Survey Maps One-inch "Popular" edition, Scotland, 1921-1930
online from the National Library of Scotland I located Shiels, represented on the map with a group of black squares indicating a number of buildings. Not surprisingly, not far south from where Talpabrae from my other request was located. I have now also located modern-day Shiels on Google maps.
I would still like to pin down an actual location for Bogend. I have it as still occupied by the family on the 1911 census, which might be as far as I can take that line of enquiry.
On some family records, Bogend is described as Bogend, Shiels.
Looking at a copy of the Ordnance Survey Maps One-inch "Popular" edition, Scotland, 1921-1930
online from the National Library of Scotland I located Shiels, represented on the map with a group of black squares indicating a number of buildings. Not surprisingly, not far south from where Talpabrae from my other request was located. I have now also located modern-day Shiels on Google maps.
I would still like to pin down an actual location for Bogend. I have it as still occupied by the family on the 1911 census, which might be as far as I can take that line of enquiry.
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World War One / A blacksmith from Arbroath in WW1 - any particular unit or battalion?
« on: Friday 26 April 13 05:57 BST (UK) »
Hi. I realise this might be a bit vague, but here goes.
I know my great-grandfather John Edwards b1875 was a blacksmith by trade in the Arbroath area (Seaton Smithy, St Vigeans). I have a post-card photo of him and a number of other men in (partial) military uniforms outside a blacksmith shop.
I know that battalions here were often formed from men from in local areas. Not sure if that was the case there.
Is there any particular unit or battalion that he may have served in on the basis of his trade and locality?
Thanks in advance.
I know my great-grandfather John Edwards b1875 was a blacksmith by trade in the Arbroath area (Seaton Smithy, St Vigeans). I have a post-card photo of him and a number of other men in (partial) military uniforms outside a blacksmith shop.
I know that battalions here were often formed from men from in local areas. Not sure if that was the case there.
Is there any particular unit or battalion that he may have served in on the basis of his trade and locality?
Thanks in advance.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« on: Thursday 25 April 13 06:31 BST (UK) »
Oh, it's not my theory and I'm quite happy to see it shot down.
I think the whole George Smith link is entirely tenuous, if he existed at all.
I had seen that 1881 census reference, I think it was early on in my search and I wasn't quite convinced for some reason. It does seem to be a reasonable match, and having become more familiar with the geography I now know Kincardine O'Neill is not that far from where the family lived.
The nephew is listed on the 1881 census as living with the grandmother Mary Murison as George Smith. I'm not even sure how it has been determined his name was George Smith Murison.
I think the whole George Smith link is entirely tenuous, if he existed at all.
I had seen that 1881 census reference, I think it was early on in my search and I wasn't quite convinced for some reason. It does seem to be a reasonable match, and having become more familiar with the geography I now know Kincardine O'Neill is not that far from where the family lived.
The nephew is listed on the 1881 census as living with the grandmother Mary Murison as George Smith. I'm not even sure how it has been determined his name was George Smith Murison.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 23:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your response.
You are right about assumptions. Even if the marriage to George is found there is still no clear connection to the use of Smith as a middle name.
I've been looking on ScotlandsPeople where I have found other documents. It's a great site, and the cost of documents is one tenth of local documents cost where I am.
I am struggling to find the right Isabella from any source other than census records.
The last census record I have for her is 1871 aged 20 living with her parents at Talpabrae in Cluny parish, Cluny, Aberdeenshire. It's possible she was born there as most of her younger siblings were.
You are right about assumptions. Even if the marriage to George is found there is still no clear connection to the use of Smith as a middle name.
I've been looking on ScotlandsPeople where I have found other documents. It's a great site, and the cost of documents is one tenth of local documents cost where I am.
I am struggling to find the right Isabella from any source other than census records.
The last census record I have for her is 1871 aged 20 living with her parents at Talpabrae in Cluny parish, Cluny, Aberdeenshire. It's possible she was born there as most of her younger siblings were.
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Aberdeenshire Completed Lookups / Re: Talpabrae, Cluny Parish, Cluny (1881 Census)
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 22:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much.
I had been on the ScotlandsPlaces site in relation to my other search, must have given up to easily on Talpabrae!
A shame it has been "recently demolished" but great to get an idea where it was.
I had been on the ScotlandsPlaces site in relation to my other search, must have given up to easily on Talpabrae!
A shame it has been "recently demolished" but great to get an idea where it was.
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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Marriage: Isabella Murison b 1851 and George Smith
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 11:16 BST (UK) »
Hi.
I am seeking information in relation of the possible marriage of Isabella Murison (sometimes Murrison) born around 1851 to a George Smith.
Isabella's sister Ann named one of her children George Smith Murison, and their double-illegitmate great-nephew was named Charles Smith Murison.
A reference to Isabella marrying a George Smith seems to be the only connection to the name Smith entering the Murison line.
Thanks in advance.
I am seeking information in relation of the possible marriage of Isabella Murison (sometimes Murrison) born around 1851 to a George Smith.
Isabella's sister Ann named one of her children George Smith Murison, and their double-illegitmate great-nephew was named Charles Smith Murison.
A reference to Isabella marrying a George Smith seems to be the only connection to the name Smith entering the Murison line.
Thanks in advance.
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Aberdeenshire Completed Lookups / Talpabrae, Cluny Parish, Cluny (1881 Census) - COMPLETED (With thanks!)
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hi. I am seeking information about an address variously transcribed as Talpabrae, Talpa Brae, Taepabrae or Paepabrae - but it looks like Talpabrae on the copy of the 1861 census that I have.
Talpabrae was the home of the family of Alexander and Mary Elizabeth (Anderson) Murison family (spelled Murrison on the 1861 census).
Any information about the actual location of this address would be appreciated.
Talpabrae was the home of the family of Alexander and Mary Elizabeth (Anderson) Murison family (spelled Murrison on the 1861 census).
Any information about the actual location of this address would be appreciated.
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Aberdeenshire / Bogend, Midmar Parish, Cluny (1891 Census among other sources)
« on: Wednesday 24 April 13 10:49 BST (UK) »
Hi. I am seeking some advice on an address listed in records as Bogend.
In 1891 it was the home of Alexander McDonald, his son James Drysdale McDonald and James' wife Elizabeth Muirson.
I am not directly related to the McDonalds, as I am descended from Elizabeth through her illegitmate daughter Maggie Ann Kidd Murison, who in 1891 was living with the family at Bogend.
According to his birth certificate, in 1899 Maggie's son (my grandfather) Charles Smith Murison was born at Bogend.
I have found aercheological references to a couple of ruins named Bogend Cottage but these appear to be in different parishes. In addition, one of James and Elizabeth's children Barbara Ferguson McDonald appears to have died at Bogend as late as 1983.
Any information about the actual location of Bogend would be appreciated.
In 1891 it was the home of Alexander McDonald, his son James Drysdale McDonald and James' wife Elizabeth Muirson.
I am not directly related to the McDonalds, as I am descended from Elizabeth through her illegitmate daughter Maggie Ann Kidd Murison, who in 1891 was living with the family at Bogend.
According to his birth certificate, in 1899 Maggie's son (my grandfather) Charles Smith Murison was born at Bogend.
I have found aercheological references to a couple of ruins named Bogend Cottage but these appear to be in different parishes. In addition, one of James and Elizabeth's children Barbara Ferguson McDonald appears to have died at Bogend as late as 1983.
Any information about the actual location of Bogend would be appreciated.