Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Gerryk

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 ... 15
28
Dublin / Cemetery information for Edward Hayden 15 Dec 1949 or Alice Hayden 9 Oct 1950
« on: Thursday 15 November 18 12:19 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know where Edward Hayden (died 15th Dec 19349) or his widow Alice (Alicia) Hayden, (died 9th Oct 1950) were buried?
Both died in Dublin, last address was 69 Tolka Rd. Both were Dubliners by birth.
I have tried Glasnevin and Fingal, without success.
Many thanks
Gerry Kane

29
Dublin / Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« on: Saturday 10 November 18 15:31 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Dathai.

That connection with the McDermotts is illuminating. It could mean that the family connection (in laws of her first husband) is behind the McDermotts who later lived in Tolka Road, and therefore, that there could be a somewhat similar connection with the O'Neill's somewhere. It may mean that Granny Hayden was selective about who she took in. It wasn't just a free for all, but a house with connections/relatives.
I'll have a look at that when I get the time.
thanks
Gerry

30
Dublin / Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« on: Saturday 10 November 18 14:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for that information. I was initially hesitant about opening up this thread, since it is such recent history. Granny Hayden may well have living relatives. If so, I would love to be in contact with them. However, I respect their privacy. I apologize for not being more specific in my earlier query - I really only wanted to contact relatives of Granny Hayden, if they were still around. I did not expect you to do so much background work. Thank you for that. She seems to have been a kind woman.


Granny Hayden( as she was known) is the key to another search.

That address - 69 Tolka Road - is indeed the one I am interested in. I am trying to trace a young boy who was taken in by Granny Hayden (and Edward) as a baby. I am not sure of the circumstances or the connection. However, I know he was not the only one she "took in".

He subsequently ended up in Artane Industrial School in 1945. His "stepfather" was listed as Edward Hayden, at 69 Tolka Road.
When he was released, he returned to the same house, but this time in the care of his "sister", an Alice McDermott, who lived there with her husband John. Both Granny Hayden and Edward had died in the meantime (as you proved in your researches). Alice, who I think lived in the house for some years with the Haydens, (having been also "taken in "), was no blood relative of the boy. But she took him in.

He left for Scotland, and then England shortly afterwards, having worked in Liptons. Indeed, family lore has it that Alice arrived back from a dance one night (so she must have been around 18) to be introduced to her "new baby brother". No reasons given. (I know that Granny Hayden was not Alice's real mother.)

This young boy was known as Oliver Anthony O'Neill. It is him I am trying to trace. He died some years ago. I am in touch with his family. However, given his background he never wanted to speak about his family of origin. He left all that behind. Now his children would dearly love to trace them.

He was born in Rose Farrell's maternity home (540 NCR) in late October 1936. However, I am not sure that the details of his parentage that were given by Rose Farrell were accurate. For one, they were supposedly a married couple, the father listed as Anthony O'Neill, a carpenter from Drumshambo. But I can't find any background to that fact that is convincing. I can find no marriage record either, for him and Mary (nee Martin) who was listed as the mother.

Also, his birth was not registered until 1951, when he was 15 years old, and the informant was the same Rose Farrell. He had been baptised in the Pro-Catherdral, a few weeks after his birth (which again was unusual), but, we don't yet have the actual baptismal certificate. The details on a transcript of the Cert, released by the archivist in Artane, were the same as those given in 1951.
Finally, another reason I am sceptical about the information, is that I am not sure how many married couples would have availed of the facilities of a maternity home.

And yet, his name stayed with him.

So, Dathai, your speculation is 100% accurate.

Are you able to throw any light on that maternity home, or the use of such homes in the 1930s/40s. And would you have any suggestions for further avenues of research?

As a footnote, I called to the house in Tolka Road recently, and Alice McDermott's son still lives there, on his own, but he is not in a position to be of much help. He remembers Tony O'Neill, ok, but he has no more details.

Many thanks
Gerry

31
Dublin / Granny Hayden 1950s
« on: Tuesday 06 November 18 11:55 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know anything about "Granny Hayden" who lived on the north side of Dublin in 1950s, off Clonliffe Road? Her husband was Edward, a Corporation employee.

32
Dublin / Re: Telephone directory 1950
« on: Tuesday 06 November 18 11:52 GMT (UK)  »
Just opening up this thread again:

My interest is in Rose Farrell in 540 NCR. Does anyone know whether her facility (and those like it) were used by married couples, or mostly for unmarried mothers?

My interest is in a boy born there in 1936, but baptised a few weeks later with a father's and mother's name, as well as a location (Drumshambo). I am not sure whether to trust this information or not.

 His birth was registered years later (in 1951) with the same father's and mother's names. Rose Farrell was the informant then.

I think at this stage he was not formally adopted but "handed on" somehow (maybe family connections).

Hard to know which thread or clues to follow.

33
Tipperary / Re: Carrick on Suir marriages 1825 - 1840
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 21:04 BST (UK)  »
No. If you know Carrick, the Toomeys lived at what is now known as the West Gate, top of Bridge St.
Andrew, a businessman and landlord, was busy buying up the rest of Bridge St.
Their three children were born, during famine years, in 1841, 43, and 47.
So, my guess is a marriage, maybe of convenience, in 1838-40. Had to be in Carrick, but obviously wasn’t recorded.
He came, I think, from Windgap, about 5 miles out the road. Carrick is on the confluence of three counties - Kilkenny, Tipperary, and Waterford. He was secretive about his family of origin.

34
Tipperary / Re: Carrick on Suir marriages 1825 - 1840
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 20:56 BST (UK)  »
Good idea. But her father was a tailor (I.e. professional) with three daughters.
I have an unusual family tree: in my grandparents, g grandparents and gg grandparents, at least one set of each came from the same street in Carrick on Suir. People didn’t often travel far,b back then, to mate and marry.

35
Tipperary / Re: Carrick on Suir marriages 1825 - 1840
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 19:09 BST (UK)  »
Thanks. I’ve tried some other parishes. But none of the sites - nli, Findmypast, Ancestry, familysearch, irishgenealogy etc - have any record of the marriage in any parish. I’ve tried name variations also.

36
Tipperary / Carrick on Suir marriages 1825 - 1840
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 18:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi. I'm trying to find the marriage date of Andrew Cleary and Catherine Toom(e)y in Carrick on Suir. It had to be between 1825 (they were born respectively in 1806 adn 1807) and 1840 (first born was in 1841).
I'm fairly certain it was in Carrick. That was where she was born, her sisters too, and where he had his business at that time.
However, although the Church records are extant, they don't show up.
Would appreciate some advice/help.
thanks
Gerry

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 ... 15