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Hi again,

I've found a record in An..try that claims as follows:

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London, England, King's Bench and Fleet Prison Discharge Books and Prisoner Lists, 1734-1862
COURT, GOVERNMENTAL & CRIMINAL RECORDS
* John Burton Gooch
* Discharge Date   29/12/1832
* Discharge Prison London England
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Whereas this name matches perfectly to one of my ancestors, I'm aware that this combination
of names was not unique at this time.

I have a Captain John Burton Gooch esq (1758-1843) who led a very interesting life,
and of whom I have been able to collect screeds and screeds of material. He worked for the East India Company in his young days, sailed on three journeys in the early 1800s, then worked independently as an investment broker for trade ventures with India. One of his projects went terribly wrong in 1817 and he spent most of the next 25 years fending off bankruptcy. He made numerous court appearances on this issue.

Anyway, his troubles finally ended with his wealthy mother-in-law paying off his debts in 1831.

So now I want to know if the JBG who was discharged from prison in 1832 is the same man or someone else of the same name.

Perhaps someone can dig up the document and see if there are revealing details?

Cheers
-David C

Hi people

One of the tricky people in my family tree is Elizabeth Sanderson Coulson, born in England in 1893.
According to family folklore she married and followed her husband to "Asia" where she died. Unfortunately no-one can be more specific as to where she went.

Today I happened to see data on a tree in Ancestry that looks as though it could be relevant.

Russell Flint Maddren, born in New York in 1887, died in California in 1974.
There is an obituary describing the man, although I can only see a tiny part of it.
He was a doctor.

--> His wife was Elizabeth Sanderson Maddren, born 1893, and she died in China.

Not being a subscription holder at Ancestry I can;t see the tree in full and I can't
contact the author of the tree.

Can I ask someone to look into this data and find Elizabeth's maiden name?

If it turns out to be Coulson, can we track the wedding back to England circa WW1?

I am not familiar at all with genealogical resources in the US.
Any help will be appreciated.

-Thanks
David C

Hi people,

I'm trying to write a short investigation into the life of an ancestor who lived in South Shields / Newcastle from 1838 to 1904. I want to know how his life would have been influenced by the radical changes in railway technology between these years.

For example, can anyone tell me when Newcastle's local rail network joined with other networks to the south and made it possible to travel all the way to London? How did it compare with coach services of the time?

In part, my question relates to his sons who migrated south to London and Wales in the 1880s.
How affordable was long distance travel to the working class back then? Am I right in guessing that long distance travel was still very costly in the 1880s, rather like long-haul air travel today? In that case, did working class people frequently scoot around to explore the country by rail or was it something you did once in a lifetime, at great cost?

Any insights welcome
Thanks
-David C

Hello people,

I just saw a listing entry in Ancestry that says Jean Sewell Coulson appeared in London in the Electoral Roll for 1939.

Can anybody give me more detail on this entry?



JSC is the most difficult-to-find person on my family tree.
She was born 'Jane' but was known in her family as 'Jannie'
and when she died she was buried as 'Jean'.

She does not appear in the 1939 register.

I have a death record in the GRO 1978 (seen via FreeBMD)
I have a birth record in the GRO 1898 (FreeBMD)
She married a Robert Johnson in 1947
She appears with her family in South Shields in 1901 & 1911.

What I'd like to find is what happened to her after 1911 through to her marriage in 1947.
Is there some way to find where she lived and worked?


-DC

Hi folks,

Not sure if anyone will be interested in tackling these questions during the holiday period.
Hope so anyway. I have four questions regarding four related members of the Hoadley family who migrated to NZ in separate years.

1.
Kate Sophia Hoadley (b. 1861) came to NZ prior to marrying Henry Thetford in 1889.
The last reference I have to her in England is the 1871 census (staying with her Fuller grandparents).
Therefore she migrated between those years, and probably before the 1881 UK census.
I think it unlikely that she migrated on her own at such a tender age. Is there any way to see who accompanied her on her trip? It may give an indication as to why she migrated.

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Kate's brother Charles William Hoadley (b. 1856) also migrated to NZ but not until he had produced a number of children in England. He appears in the 1911 UK census and in the 1925 NZ Electoral Roll. He died in NZ in 1933. I found a possible match for him in 1912 in the 'Passenger leaving UK list' but I am not sure. He would have been 56 years old by then.
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His wife and three of his adult children came out to join him in 1926, but they are all back in the UK by 1939 where they appear in the health register. I sense that there is a story here. Can anyone find precisely when he came to NZ and why his family did not come with him at the time?
And can anyone show that his wife and children only went back to the UK after his death?
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My guess is that Charles came to NZ on a short work contract prior to WW1 and was unable to return until the end of the war (as was the case with another ancestor of mine). Perhaps by 1919 it was better for his wife and children to come out to NZ than for him to return. Just trying to compose a reason for their separate migrations.

3.
Charles's first son Herbert Edward Hoadley (b, 1890) came to NZ in 1913 (presumably a year after his father) and married a local girl in 1915 and spent the rest of his life here. Can anyone find out more about his life in NZ?

4.
Charles had a cousin named Gordon Felix Hoadley (1888-1917) who came out on a 5-year work contract with his wife and children in 1913. He is the ancestor who was trapped by circumstances following the outbreak of war in 1914 and could not return to the UK. He died due to illness in 1917.
There seem to be several appearances of him in the 'Passenger leaving the UK' archive, which is confusing. Is it possible that these are accidental repetitions of him with slightly changed details or is it the case that there are two or more migrants with very similar names?

Any help on these people would be welcome. Perhaps there is a descendant of these Hoadleys who has done some family research?

Cheers
-David C