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Australia Lookups completed / Re: Braidwood bushrangers
« on: Wednesday 12 October 05 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, "CuriousDiana", for your suggestions. There were many Hickey people in the Braidwood region at the time of my great-great-grandmother Anne Hickey, and much of my work up until now has consisted of trying to sort them out. The following chart concerns Anne's brother, my Tipperary-born Billy Hickey the bushranger:

I have often wondered whether one of the three sons of Billy Hickey and Kate Brunton might have descendants living today, enabling me to find out what became of my great-great-grandmother's brother.

I can't believe that a reputed bandit such as Billy Hickey would have disappeared into thin air, because many of his mates were notorious: the Clarke brothers, the Connells, William Berriman, etc.

These Braidwood bushrangers are the subject of an excellent book:

John O'Sullivan
The Bloodiest Brushrangers
The violent story of the Australian outlaws
Everybody is mentioned there by name except my Billy Hickey. Now, I think I know why O'Sullivan doesn't mention Hickey, who is nevertheless mentioned explicitly by the policeman Superintendent Martin Brennan, who was the source of much of the material used by O'Sullivan. You see, we're right in the middle of one of those typical situations in which historians refrain deliberately from being too explicit for fear of hurting certain readers. In his preface, O'Sullivan states:

I have not thought it necessary to mention a number of surnames when the family is still in the district and where the omission is not significant.

Personally, I am more offended by people hiding facts from me than if they were to tell me everything they knew.

William Skyvington

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Antrim / Massereene/Skeffington story
« on: Monday 10 October 05 22:14 BST (UK)  »
I have researched families whose names are associated with Skeffington, and my notes on this subject (downloadable as Word files through my website) include elements of the history of the Massereene viscountcy. In a forthcoming version of these notes, I do not intend to pursue the Massereene/Skeffington story any further, because I have discovered recently that my own family sprung from an early branch of the Leicestershire patriarchs, prior to any connections with Ireland. So, I would be happy to hand over my Massereene/Skeffington results to a researcher who is focussed upon the Irish branches.

Massereene/Skeffington genealogy is a rich and fascinating story, but work could be done in at least three fields:

  • The Williamson study of the 2nd Earl (Proni 1972) could be re-edited to include, for example, essential prison records I obtained from the Parisian Police Museum. His lengthy detention in Parisian debtors' prisons constitutes an interesting chapter of pre-revolutionary French history (which deserves to be written).

  • Several direct descents from royalty could be presented in detail. As strange as it might appear, I'm not convinced that even the late 13th Viscount was fully aware of these descents, which he never mentioned to me in any of his letters.

  • The origins of present-day Skeffington folk could be investigated. For example, I was thrilled to find a celebrated Skeffington descendant: Lewis Carroll.

Since this subject is rather specialized, interested researchers might contact me by private messages... unless, of course, they consider that other RootsChatters might be concerned by these themes. In any case, there is no urgency in my proposition.

William Skyvington


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Completed Census Requests / Re: LOOKUP OFFER - Wills & Admons (1858 onwards)
« on: Monday 10 October 05 20:25 BST (UK)  »
Jonathan,

I would be most grateful if you were to do a will lookup concerning the press cutting you sent me:



Here's the data concerning this man, who was my great-great-grandfather:

Individual’s name: Frank Skyvington

Death date: 3 May 1916

Age at death: 71

Place of death: Charlton Nursing Home, Plymouth (Devonshire)

Marital status: widower (Belgian wife Marie-Thérèse died in 1906)

Occupation: retired caretaker

Likely beneficiaries: Maybe his son William Skyvington was still alive somewhere, but I have no information on his whereabouts. Frank's grandson Ernest Skyvington (my grandfather) was out in Australia, and he was possibly a beneficiary. Maybe there was a female beneficiary named Mepham.

Other identification info: Frank Skyvington's residence, before entering the nursing home, was Yealmpton (Devonshire).

I thank you, Jonathan, for your precious help.

William Skyvington

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The Lighter Side / Re: What country do you live in.
« on: Friday 07 October 05 13:08 BST (UK)  »
France, for the last 40 years. Most of the time in Paris. Now in the country. I work here on my farm, on the edge of the Alps, as a writer.

I might be able to provide help to researchers with French queries.

I'm not particularly worried about revealing my address because I live in a wild place surrounded by gigantic cliffs and terrifying ravines. Stalkers coming here would risk their lives. They would have to dodge dogs, possibly buckshot from certain locals... but would most likely simply fall into holes in the gruyère ground before going far. A special kind of wilderness! (Google with "Vercors" to see what I mean.)

William Skyvington
Gamone
38680 CHORANCHE
France

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Australia Lookups completed / Braidwood bushrangers
« on: Thursday 06 October 05 15:28 BST (UK)  »
I apologize for the volume of this message, but the subject is most important for me in the context of my maternal family-history activities.

After lengthy research in Australia, I recently learnt that my g-g-g-grandfather was a convict from Tipperary named Patrick Hickey, who didn't get his urge for cattle-stealing and house robbery knocked out of him by being transported. On the contrary, he even earned himself, through an additional crime committed in New South Wales, a taste of the hell of Norfolk Island. Patrick must have been a good talker, because he persuaded the authorities to send his wife and kids out to Braidwood. His daughter, Ann, married Charles Walker from Cork (steward on the Caroline, the vessel that had brought the Henty brothers to Western Australia), and they were my g-g-grandparents.

I am searching for information on one of Ann's brothers, William Hickey, born around 1823 in the Tipperary townland of Borris (now called Two Mile Borris). It was said in the following mysterious police document (about which I know little, except that it was apparently written just before the execution of the Clarke brothers in 1867) that this Billy Hickey was a Braidwood bushranger who rode with the Clarke gang:
 
WILLIAM HICKEY age about 45 years, farmer, residing at Reidsdale. Has been an associate of  the bushrangers and is still suspected of harbouring and assisting them. Was arrested in 1863 for highway robbery, acquitted by the Bench. His father, an Imperial Convict, was tried for house robbery about the year 1852 and sentenced to 14 years roads, which sentence was afterwards mitigated on memorial. William Hickey was present when the outlaw Clarke and William Berriman assaulted, with intent to rob, a number of Chinamen at Majors Creek in November 1864 and for which offence Clarke was under committal for trial when he effected his escape from Braidwood Gaol.
 

We know a lot about the Clarke brothers, photographed here in Braidwood shortly before they were taken to Darlinghurst to be hung:

On the other hand, I know almost nothing about their Braidwood friend, my ancestor Billy Hickey. Any assistance in this domain would be greatly appreciated.

William




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Technical Help / Re: Is anyone else out there using an Apple Mac?
« on: Saturday 01 October 05 21:03 BST (UK)  »
I've been using the same old Mac for the last ten years.

As far as genealogical software is concerned, I consider GEDitCOM to be a masterpiece of efficiency and user-friendliness.

In the presentation of family history, I believe in paper. So, an Internet thing such as my website (under construction) of maternal family history is merely an invitation to download stuff and print it out.

William




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Mike speaks of


click of death syndrome

Yes, this is one of the most frequent mortal afflictions you discover, along with relatively mild things such as plagues, when browsing through transcriptions of the UK census that appear to have been produced by Bombay typists.  :(

I agree with Mike that paper has a good future in front of it. That's why I prefer to use the Internet as a vector for distributing family-history stuff in a form that can be printed out on paper rather than simply looked at on the screen. Here's an example of this approach, based upon the use of Flash and downloadable PDF files, which I'm working on at present:

     http://grafton.nsw.free.fr/mother

This kind of website is not very sexy to see on the screen, because it doesn't tell you anything at all, but it provides you with a lot of nice stuff to download, print out and read in bed. And that, to my way of thinking, is a better place to delve into genealogy than in front of a computer screen.

William

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Marie said:

Haven't plumbed the mystery of gedcoms yet, particularly for Macs...

The first time I received a big mysterious gedcom file from a friend, I could make neither head nor tail of it, literally, since I couldn't figure out where it started and where it ended. Fortunately, that initial state of confusion didn't last for long, and I now think of gedcoms as the greatest invention since sliced bread. They're so light-weight that you can attach them to emails in the hope that your receiver will know how to handle them, which is unfortunately not always the case.

Macintosh users have the advantage of being able to get totally involved in the gedcom phenomenon by means of the extraordinarily well-developed GEDitCOM tool, which actually uses the gedcom format for its internal data structures. What I am saying about GEDitCOM might look like a shameless plug, but I truly have no contacts of any kind with the brilliant fellow from Utah, if I remember correctly) who built this software, Having worked on Macs ever since 1984 (and written a book on this subject), I've rarely seen a simple product, in any domain whatsoever, of such high quality from a user-friendliness viewpoint. You can actually exploit GEDitCOM to test the validity of gedcom files exported by other tools, from non-Mac platforms.

These remarks might prove useful to Marie and others, but I do not wish to start any kind of war about genealogy tools.

William

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The hybrid approach outlined by "glenidol" for her friend's birthday, combining several kinds of documents (text, photos and video), could be used to present results of everyday family-history research.

With free webspace becoming more and more readily available, we can think about storing high-resolution photos (capable of being transformed into images on paper) in this way. But we must not forget that only people with rapid Internet access and an excellent printer will be able to take advantage of such photos. A friend of mine has helped me do this (since I'm stuck with old-fashioned Internet access) for a few personal portraits at the following Flash site:

   http://grafton.nsw.free.fr/portraits

A common challenge when using old photos is to call upon other researchers in an attempt to identify individuals. Here again, a website can prove useful, since it lets you enlarge parts of the photo, to help in the identification process. Here's an example of a Flash site of this kind:

   http://grafton.nsw.free.fr/atalanta

(I hope I'm using tags correctly in this message. If not, please forgive me. I would have egg on my face if I made a blunder that displayed the entire RootsChat forum in green italics!)

William

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