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Roxburghshire / Re: Cannot locate this marriage anymore on Scotlandspeople or in familysearch ?
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 13:55 GMT (UK)  »
Emma. I had not thought of this situation - the pages missing. Makes sense when I can find other entries re Cavers Roxburghshire on the family search re same date even but they are also not showing on Scotlandspeople as I did a search re days before and after this date. But as others have suggested I feel this also might be a Kirk Session entry, hence another reason why not showing up.
 Also to fifer1947 the entry on the 1841 Census is actually showing the Miller family which is correct and the child Adam Wintrup aged 11 is actually Euphemia's son born out of wedlock. I have found these details and about to get copies of them via Scottish Indexes (used to be Maxwells Ancestry), there are two entries 1. re the paternity orders and also one re a Adam Wintrup in prison records. Will be interesting to see what these show and if the same person.
I have many of my Miller family not showing on familysearch or Scotlandspeople - yet I am the holder of a Birthday book of my GG Grandmother Helen Miller who married William Elliot and then immigrated to NZ. She has written the dates of births in this book of her father James Miller, her Grand father William Miller and her Great Grandfather James Miller (going back to 1719) in her handwriting. I am trusting this book is correct (well as close as possible that is), as all the other birthdates written in it are proving to be correct.
I think I am really waiting for the Kirk Session books to be available for all to search. Seems I cannot even order them via the familysearch microfilm order which is a pity.
So my next question really is - How do I access the details of the Kirk Session books from Australia ?
thanks again to everyone who is replying this has been a great day for me.
Ailsa

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Roxburghshire / Re: Cannot locate this marriage anymore on Scotlandspeople or in familysearch ?
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 12:52 GMT (UK)  »
many thank Annette. As I got this entry years ago I cannot remember where I got the details from. So if a contributed entry via the IGI it makes sense but that person must have got the information from somewhere in order for me to also get a copy. Sounds very much like the Kirk Session books need to be looked at for this entry. I think this is solving some of the mystery and thanks for that IGI link as I could not find it on the familysearch site tonight.
I will see what the RGO has to say about the entry, but will let everyone know when I get an answer.
thanks this has been most helpful tonight and so quick.
Ailsa

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Roxburghshire / Re: Cannot locate this marriage anymore on Scotlandspeople or in familysearch ?
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 12:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi GR2. Your information could be on the right track and I know Scotlandspeople have not uploaded the kirk session books as yet. Have heard that they have been scanned already.
So who do I contact in relation to the kirk session books for a confirmation ?
I live in Australia so no way I can visit to view myself. this might explain why I cannot locate on Scotlandspeople for this particular couple, though other entries I have going back to the 1990's are coming up for me to view and download in the clerks handwriting.
thanks

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Roxburghshire / Re: Cannot locate this marriage anymore on Scotlandspeople or in familysearch ?
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 12:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you again. I have sent them a message regarding it via your link and hopefully they will be able to reply and give me an explanation. the document I got is the official document from them, so details must be there somewhere. Do you know a link to the old IGI as I cannot seem to find it. I have a feeling back in the 1990's this was where we got the information from and then sent to Scotland with details for a copy of the transcript. I understand on the IGI there were lots of errors and also submissions but this does not seem like a submission to me or an error (not talking about spellings of names here), so would be interested if you know and any further thoughts you might have. thanks so far. Ailsa

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Roxburghshire / Re: Cannot locate this marriage anymore on Scotlandspeople or in familysearch ?
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 11:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your quick reply. I have children of this marriage of which all state on either there own marriage or death certificates in Scotland that these are the parents. Also have the death certificates and all the Census records of the parents involved.
I understand it is just the Banns in the early records, but so strange that I cannot find it now on Scotlandspeople and yet I have a copy of the entry that I had written for years ago. That is my problem in that I can no longer find it to get the full reference details. Back when we did postal orders the reference details were not included on the returned official document we got back.
I have also looked at the parish of Lauder but no other entry there. I have found many times only the one entry and yet two different parishes are mentioned.  I have no idea what the 1/2 is or means.
Any help on that also would be great.

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Roxburghshire / (*Completed with thanks*)Can't locate marriage Scotlandspeople or familysearch ?
« on: Sunday 25 January 15 11:22 GMT (UK)  »
Years ago (1990's) I ordered directly from the GRO in Scotland a extract of an entry in an OPR. I cannot remember how I got the details to order the correct entry. May have been via IGI or a familysearch film.
Anyway I wanted today to download an updated version as well as find the reference details for the entry that I have. But 1. It is not showing on Scotlandspeople at all no matter wildcards, searching for time frame with no mention of any names etc. Have tired even up to 1854 as well as in Civil Registration time frame but no luck. I also cannot locate the entry any more via familysearch and as they no longer have the old IGI I cannot check references there either.
In fact with my searches I have found NO marriage entries for the Cavers area of Roxburgh showing for the time period of 1836, and yet there is a couple showing via familysearch for that time period. (talking about other couples in this case)
I have attached a copy of the old certificate I got years ago so as to give you some idea of what I am talking about. The information much be there somewhere. BTW also checked the Catholic records as well with no results.
Marriage was: Cavers Roxburgh, Nov 13th 1836
To proclamation of James Miller, Northhouse in this parish and Euphemia Wintrop Hawick Sheil Tollbar, in the parish of Lauder.

Any ideas on where to actually find this entry for my referencing purposes would be greatly appreciated. Or has anyone had any luck in contacting Scotlandspeople re this type of situation previously.
thanks Ailsa

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