Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Megatill

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 9
19
Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Gower married John Thomas - Swansea - any information!
« on: Sunday 07 September 14 14:10 BST (UK)  »
Indeed, Osprey - I am assuming William Gower Thomas' departure from England rather than Wales because all other Welsh migrants that I have found in my family have left via England rather than Wales when travelling to the US. So far, they are all Mormon migrants.

I have not searched for departures from Wales as yet as I am focused on other lines at the moment. However, it is on my to-do list!

Thanks for searching, Osprey!

20
Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Gower married John Thomas - Swansea - any information!
« on: Sunday 07 September 14 13:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi Osprey - just searching other people's trees; no proof there, just suggestions for searching to find proof.

I would appreciate any findings against William Gower Thomas - he's "proven" through references in Utah. He and Elizabeth married in St Louis, Missouri on 21 May 1850.

Elizabeth David departed England on 15 Feb 1849 on the ship HARTLEY from Liverpool with the David family.

I have yet to confirm William Gower Thomas' departure from England.

Both William Gower & Elizabeth were part of the Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel, 1847–1868  in the William Morgan Company (1852) Bet. 22 Jun–30 Sep 1852.

Megan in Sydney

21
Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: Elizabeth Gower married John Thomas - Swansea - any information!
« on: Sunday 07 September 14 13:00 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much, Osprey.

I have the name Gower from family anecdotes and other family members. However, they have told me they have "lost" any documentation regarding Elizabeth & John, so I am having to "recreate" the documentation by actually finding it.

My 2ndGGrandfather is William Gower Thomas (b 06 Dec 1825 Swansea), who married Elizabeth David (b 16 Apr 1830 Llanelli) - both died in Spanish Fork, Utah. Ancestry searches have shown William Gower Thomas' parents are John Thomas and Elizabeth Gower, born Swansea.

I am of the opinion that there are a lot of possibilities with common surnames like Thomas, so maybe my 1861 Census data is of an incorrect couple/family.

Would you be able to confirm William Gower Thomas for me?

Thank you for responding!

Megan in Sydney

22
Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Elizabeth Gower married John Thomas - Swansea - any information!
« on: Sunday 07 September 14 02:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi Folks!

I am hoping someone may be able to push my research back another few generations!

I am looking for any information about an ELIZABETH GOWER, who was born around 1801 in Swansea, Glamorganshire. She married JOHN THOMAS in Swansea about 1824.

I have a copy of the 1861 Welsh Census which shows both John & Elizabeth living in LLANGYNWY, he a Labourer, she a Wife, with son William (bc 1840 - a Mason).

However, I have no confirmation of a Birth, Baptism, Death or Burial, or details of their parents, for either Elizabeth or John, and I am hoping that someone can assist with those details to help me!

Megan in Sydney

23
The Common Room / Re: One Family - Baptisms in multiple Parishes
« on: Monday 26 November 12 09:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi GrahamSimons,

Thanks for the Ordnance Survey website - I'll check it out!

However, I don't know how valuable it will be for this particular thread.

As I've said, "I have no idea where the family resided, so I can not tell if they were centrally located in the Parish or located on the periphery."

Thus, a map is moot in this instance.


Megan in Sydney

24
The Common Room / Re: One Family - Baptisms in multiple Parishes
« on: Monday 26 November 12 09:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi lizdb,

I used the Parish Locator program (PARLOC) and searched for Burton Overy. PARLOC gives a list of the parishes around a town/city for various distances.

Unfortunately, I have no idea where the family resided, so I can not tell if they were centrally located in the Parish or located on the periphery.

Maps are good at giving locations, but unless you have terrain contours showing, it's hard to understand whether you are walking up-hill, or sliding down-hill. Thus, effort is only an estimate!



My question has basically been answered - the responses to date seem to indicate that there was no "church law/requirement" that 'made' them swap between the two Parishes.


Megan in Sydney

25
The Common Room / Re: One Family - Baptisms in multiple Parishes
« on: Monday 26 November 12 02:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sloe Gin,

No, I do not know the occupations at the moment. The FamilySearch.org indexes (indices) that prompted this thread do not contain Occupation details.

I have yet to find the original documents/copies to view.


Megan in Sydney

26
The Common Room / Re: One Family - Baptisms in multiple Parishes
« on: Sunday 25 November 12 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Sloe Gin,

There are Tilley families in Burton Overy for as far back as I have gone to date (1400s).

My interpretation of that fact is that they (the Tilley family) had some sort of occupation that made them invaluable to the community.

For all the intermarriages into the Tilley family over those centuries, only a few came from the Langtons (Church, Tur, Thorp). Some also came from Kibworth Harcourt/Beauchamp.

It is my belief (from the later census records) that the elder boys went further afield, but always married and lived in Burton Overy.


Megan in Sydney

27
The Common Room / Re: One Family - Baptisms in multiple Parishes
« on: Sunday 25 November 12 22:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you to Rancegal and Lizdb for your responses.

Personally, I do not think Parish relief was the reason, but it is obviously a consideration. Their children seem to be baptised in Burton Overy, then Church Langton and then Burton Overy and then Church Langton... every child a swapped Parish.

All other events occurred (as far as I can see, right now) in Burton Overy.

I will try the Church records to see if the Minister traveled between Burton Overy and Church Langton - that means the current FamilySearch.org indexes will be superseded by the "original" record/image.

Church Langton is only 4.4mi southeast of Burton Overy, which is very 'walkable'. However, there are a lot of Parishes closer to Burton Overy which could have been chosen instead, as they would have been quicker to get to. It's the fact of the distance of 4.4mi which is the puzzle for me - "why that specific parish".

I will never know the real reason why the family did what they did; but your two responses seem to indicate that there was no "church law/requirement" that 'made' them swap between the two Parishes.

Megan in Sydney

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 9