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Moved to the right board now - thank you!

Tried to be more organised this afternoon - I have extracted all the Butterfields (incl variant spellings) from the Keighley, Sutton, Kildwick, Haworth, Bingley and Addingham 1941 Census records. (Might check over Skipton, and Barrowford/Colne later).

So that's about 350 altogether. Now checking against my tree......

I suppose this is a statement of the obvious to more experienced researchers, but it is interesting to see how many other surnames keep appearing in these records time and time again. Feather, Hey, Pighills, Sunderland and quite a few more, all apparently much larger "families" than mine. I also noticed that it was very common for sons to be given the mother's maiden name as their first name - and in the Butterfields' case, this is very helpful with the jigsaw.

Hoping there are others with links to this area,

Cliffelinks65

re Susannah - I found a baptism in Keighley for a Susannah, b 1793, parents William B and Mary Lawson - could this be her?

Cliffelinks65

Just looked at the first part of your reply - I also only have some of the baptism dates for Elijah and Ann's childen, as follows:-

Joseph bapt 31 Aug 1809 (6 weeks old)
Christiana bapt 24 Jun 1811 born 25 Dec 1810
Jonathan bapt 30 June 1813

Other children listed as :-
William b 1816
John b 1821
Mary b 1823
Betty b 1826
Elizabeth b 1827
and another John b 1836

Could Betty and Elizabeth be the same person, I thought Betty was a version of the name Elizabeth?

I have marriages and descendants for Jonathan and William sketched out, but nothing as yet for any of the others.

Back to the rest of your message....

Cliffelinks65

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The plot thickens....

James' details on the 1841 census for Sutton are proving very elusive...I can find a Thomas in my tree b 1816, he might fit quite well, but as for Ann and Isaac, no joy yet. Can't find any birth/baptism records to make them the last two children of my James and Mary, or even Isaac the husband of Ann. The Thomas I have already I have showing as married in 1844 to someone else. As for Adam/Addam, also no birth baptism record, just a death in 1851.  I841 really is difficult sometimes, isn't it...!

However, better news elsewhere....Michael, illegitimate brother of Elijah, married Susan Judson/Judgson in 1815, and had the following children - William, Mary, Susanna, Martha, Nancy and maybe an Isaac. In between Nancy and the possible Isaac is the curiously named Jepy. More of him lower down in this message.

In 1833 Michael seems to have married Martha Hodgson/Hodgkin, moving to the Bury/Blackburn area of Lancashire - more children follow - Solomon, Charlotte, Cornelius, Michael, another Susanna and Jane E.

There is a really interesting entry of baptisms under Lancashire/Blackburn, Ebenezer Chapel for Jun 2 1835 which shows the following -

Jepy (?), b 1827 to Michael Butterfield and Susan Judson
Charlotte b 1835 to Michael Butterfield and Martha Hodgkin.

These 2 entries are on the same page next to each other, and the first shows Michael as living in Oldfield (which is the right area for his birth and first marriage). I haven't deciphered the abode for the second entry yet.

Still on the case.....

Cliffelinks65
 

Hi again,

Just seen your latest message - will read now!
Meanwhile, here is what I have written this afternoon in reply to yesterday........

Going from John Butterfield  and Mary Smith, married 1696, I have all the same children as you, with the addition of a Mary b 1701. Of these children I have the following :
Susannah, b 1707 possibly marrying a John Midgeley 1727. She dies 1729
Isaac – marriage to Anne Harrison in 1733 , and 7 children
John – marriage to Susan(na) Pighills in 1732, and 3 children
Abraham – marriage to Sarah Bins 1843, and one child
Thomas – marriage to Alice Smith 1738, and 6 children

Rather than Thomas, I have this  Isaac as the ancestor of the Butterfields who owned the mills and ultimately Cliffe Castle in Keighley – I have traced out their ancestry as a separate tree, which is very   interesting its own right, with several prominent American and French connections, including Theodore Roosevelt’s family.

Looking at your line, I also have Tom Butterfield  b 1890 in Bradford....looking further into this, it suggests that we are probably distantly related (quite how depends on the” elusive James’s”, but related nonetheless!) At the moment Tom could be a 6th cousin 1x of mine.....or something like that anyway.

A few months ago I visited Cliffe Castle (fascinating!) and the surrounding area, in particular Haworth and Stanbury, for the first time in more years than I care to remember.  Our destination was the Grouse inn at Oldfield  - the landlord there in the later 1800s was a Butterfield – and, to get there,  we passed from Stanbury across the valley to Ponden, Pitcher’s Clough and Scartop.  All round that area I have Butterfield abodes at different times. Deanfield or Deansfield comes up quite often, also Hill Top, Two Laws and Haworth itself.  .  As you have said, it is still very rural, and must have been even more so then...so it is highly likely that most  of the Butterfields then were related. All these places are really quite close to each other.  But what a jigsaw it is proving to be!

 As regards Joseph Butterfield and Mary Hey, I’ve looked into this family today, and think that Susan, Sally and Rachel are indeed  their children, as well as the others we have who were born earlier..  The Baptism records for Sally and Rachel mention both Joseph and Mary Hey; Susan’s just says Joseph as the father.

When we come to Elijah, Michael and Martha, it does seem odd that Michael was baptised about 4 months prior to Martha, so maybe it was a late baptism as you suggest. There are a lot of “gaps” between some births and baptisms in many of the other records I have from that time.
I note your comments about Eunice – I did not have this information at all.

Also, I am not familiar with the Township Records you mentioned – I only have the printed records from Haworth Parish and  I extracted the Keighley parish records myself from an online resource. I also have some printed records from Kildwick. Are these Township records held in Keighley and Bradford?

Lastly, for now, I have also done some preliminary searching for this Michael, who I didn’t know about – it looks like he went into Lancashire later, but I need to do more before I can confirm that.
All this is showing me how I need to focus on the detail – I feel I will be drawing more charts this week!

Now I will look at what you have just sent....back soon!

Cliffelinks65