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No I can't find Ann in the 1841 census - unless she is the 15 year old servant Ann Day in the 1841 Census
Piece:   377
Book:   3
Folio:   17
Page Number:   29

The only likely birth record I can find is for a baptism of Mary Ann Day - parents William and Eleanor on 2 Jan 1827

I'm intrigued by Richard Oakley her first husband - if he is the Richard who married Ann Brazenor and had children Bethick/Bethia and John they are still together on the 1851 Census when he's married to Ann Day. So is he bigamous or is there a different first wife that I can't find?

Confused!

I'm returning to this thread as I have another dilemma>
From Reply 13 "Following on, Richard Oakley who I believe married Anne Brazenore in Pontesbury Salop was widowed in 1849 & came to B'ham where in 1851 he married Ann Day"

I have turned up 2 1951 Census which could both be Richard Oakley and family!

1. with Ann Brazenor and family:

Name:   Ann Oakley
Age:   45
Estimated birth year:   abt 1806
Relation:   Wife
Spouse's name:   Richard Oakley
Gender:   Female
Where born:   Pornsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish:   Stottesdon
County/Island:   Shropshire
Country:   England
Registration district:   Cleobury Mortimer
Sub-registration district:   Cleobury Mortimer
ED, institution, or vessel:   1d
Household schedule number:   1
Piece:   1985
Folio:   242
Page Number:   1
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Richard Oakley   50
Ann Oakley   45
Bethich Oakley   20
John Oakley   19

2. with Ann Day and son Peter?
Name Richd Oakley
Age 45
Estimated Birth Yearabt 1806
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Ann Oakley
Gender Male
Where born
Pohlesby, Shropshire, England
Civil parish Aston
Ecclesiastical parish Bordesley Trinity
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps11599
Town Deritend and Bordesley
County/Island Warwickshire
Country England
Registration district Aston
Sub-registration district Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel 2a
Household schedule number112
Piece 2060
Folio 310
Page number 29
Household Members 9257706
Household Members
Name Richd Oakley Age 45
Name Ann Oakley Age 36
Name Peter Oakley Age 5

Can anyone give me any direction?
Many thanks

Hello Helen,
I have had a message through Ancestry from another Collins, who is a Grandson of William and Teresa Collins (another of Patrick and Jane's sons) Gary is in America and tracing the tree from that side.
He has quite a bit of information on his tree but seems to be maybe what he's been told as there is not much evidence, so difficult for me to follow

Janice

Can anyone help with when/where my Grandad may have enlisted?

His name is Martin Collins
He was born in Loughrea, Co. Galway in 1895 and family rumour has it he signed up to get free passage to England and that he was in his teens.

I have so far found his RASC Roll of Individuals entitled to the Victory and British war Medals (page 6166)
It shows him as a Driver and his RASC No as T4/088619
while his 2/8 London Regt. Rifle. Bde. No as B/201877
& notes
RASC 9.1.16-25.9.17
2/8 London Regt. Rifle Brigade. 26.9.17 - 22.11.18
Retransferred RASC 23.11.18

written beneath that in red ink is something I can't read plus RASC/101B61

I can find no information about where and when he actually enlisted. Nor where and when he was demobbed

Any ideas would be welcomed please
Thank you

Re Grandad Martin Collins: Born Loughrea Co. Galway 1895, probably in Woodford Co. Galway 1911, Married my Gran (Vesta) in London 1920.
But I can find nothing between 1911 and 1920.

My brothers memory re Martin 'joining up' is slightly different to mine.
" . .there was  a requirement for him to ride, it was a mounted regiment. All mounted regiments are called cavalry but not all have cavalry as part of their name and there were quite a number of mounted Irish regiments during that period.
He joined up to get free passage to England and although he had been bought up on a farm in Ireland and could ride he pretended he could not to delay going into active service"

Anyone have any ideas?