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Fife / Re: Agnes McLeod b. abt.1806, Abdie, Fife, died 1883 Ferry Port on Craig, Fife.
« on: Saturday 16 December 17 20:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi CaroleW

Unfortunately all I've had access to is a basic transcribed record giving the dates of Hugh McLeod's birth/baptism and his parents' names, not an original document - same with the details of his parents' wedding. Two places are given for Agnes & Walter's marriage, Creich & Abdie, both in Fife - again I only have access to a basic transcribed record and not an original document. I've also been thwarted in that I haven't spotted Alexander & Anne (nee Smith) and family in Scotland census records. Perhaps I'm just missing them or perhaps they spent time overseas - perhaps in India or somesuch, though this is purely speculation.

 Possibly not an elopement, though it does seem that the marriage took place without her parents' knowledge or blessing - given that family stories generally need to be taken with a grain of salt :)

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Fife / Agnes McLeod b. abt.1806, Abdie, Fife, died 1883 Ferry Port on Craig, Fife.
« on: Saturday 16 December 17 01:04 GMT (UK)  »
Trying to discover something about the background of this lady. She was born at Abdie to Alexander McLeod and Anne nee Smith, who had married at Abdie on 16 September 1797. I haven't established the exact date of her birth but using census results, would put it at abt 1806. It's likely that a Hugh McLeod born at Abdie on 15 December 1799 to Alexander McLeod and Anne nee Smith was an older brother.

Agnes McLeod married at Abdie on 17 October 1831 to Walter White (1803-1884), born at Freuchie, Falkland, Fife,  a son of Robert White and Margaret nee Waddell. They had 5 children - two of their sons and three (possibly four) grandchildren emigrated to New Zealand.

There is a family story that says Agnes' parents did not approve of her marriage to Walter, who was a master shoemaker. The couple may have eloped, because the story also says that when her parents discovered Agnes had married Walter anyway, they promptly disinherited her. This indicates that
Alexander & Anne McLeod must have been people of some standing, but I haven't been able to find anything about them. Presumably they didn't regard Walter as having sufficient status to marry their daughter!

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Have found a record of the death of Thomas & Eizabeth (nee Huggins) Ward's youngest son, who it appears was named George Huggins Ward. He died in the 1st quarter of the year 1891, registration district St George Hanover Square, London.

Also found mention of the London-based wine business owned by John Ward. By 1871 he was running this business in partnership with his oldest son John Micklem Ward. In 1886 John Snr retired leaving the business to his son. The business was styled at this time “Ward & Son, Wine, Spirit, Beer, and Cyder Merchants” at Cushion Court, 10 Old Broad-street in the city of London and 20 Weston-street, Bermondsey (Southwark). Cushion Court possibly his offices and Bermondsley the factory
Notice of dissolution of partnership between John Ward and his son 
“London Gazette” Feb. 5, 1886
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/25556/page/575/data.pdf

John Micklem Ward seems to disappear from record after this time - no sign in 1891 Census, or marriage noted. In 1881 he was a bachelor of 31 living at home with his parents, so may never have married. John Ward's youngest son, George Elias Ward (1859-1923), is recorded as manager of a beer bottling firm in 1911, but this is most unlikely to be the same business.

Whether the business run by John Ward and his son is the same one owned by John's older brother William and run by his younger brother George by 1851 is unclear. Haven't been able to answer that question, but as George was a wine merchant employing 23 men in 1861 he may have been running his business concurrently with his brother John's so perhaps there were two separate businesses. John was definitely well-established as a wine merchant and doing very nicely when he bailed out his sister Elizabeth after the death of her husband Edward Fearon in 1869.

 One point of interest is that George H was livng at Forest Hill, Lewisham in 1861 and this same area is where George Elias (youngest son of John & Caroline (nee Micklem) was born, so John Ward Snr and his younger brother George Huggins Ward must have been living in close proximity at that point.


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Just spotted the death of William Ward Jnr, son of Thomas & Elizabeth (nee Huggins) Ward. It looks as if he had gone back home to "Langridge" from London where he had his wine business because he was suffering from a terminal illness. He must in fact have died not long after the 1851 census recorded him as staying there.

"Trewman's Exeter Flying Post", Thurday 10 April 1851, Issue 4451

"Died March 31 at 'Langridge' after a long illness, borne with Christian resignation and manly fortitude, Mr William Ward of Marlborough Terrace, Kensington. His loss is deeply lamented by his surviving relatives and friends, by whom he was deservedly beloved and respected".

Couldn't find any mention of where he was buried.

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Thanks so much for all this! Very interesting and pretty much all the gaps filled in - amazing. So, now established that William & Ann (nee Pope) Ward and George & Elizabeth (nee Tremlett) Huggins were the grandparents of the Ward siblings I'm tracking. It's also clear that the Ward grandparents were living at "Langridge" before their sons, so the family occupation there went back at least one generation.

I did know that there was a Norrish-Ward family connection of some sort, but you've pinpointed where that came from - not from the Ward side, but the Hugginses. There appear to have been a number of Tremlett-Norrish marriages in the Crediton area  and it looks as if both Tremlett and Norrish families were originally landowners at Sandford (along with the Hugginses). Perhaps the family members buried at Sandford rather than Crediton were interred in a family plot there. There were several Eliases in the Tremlett line. Perhaps the father of Elizabeth Tremlett who married George Huggins was one of these Elias Tremletts?

A newspaper report in August 1835 reports a case of arson on a property known as "Woodland Down" belonging to Wm Ward (uncle of Elias T. Ward, who appeared as a witness in the resulting court case), maybe indicating that the Wards had since bought the "Woodland" acreage leased by Wm's brother Thomas in 1824. It seems that Wm didn't marry and/or have children of his own as his nephew Elias T. Ward succeeded him as owner of "Langridge" and he also left his estate to his nephew's only child.

I'm starting to think more and more than this wine business in London must have been a Ward family affair as it now appears that 3 brothers were probably linked with it - William, John and George. You'd think it would be too much of coincidence for them to have each separately set up as wine merchants in London. In the probate hearing for his brother Elias' estate, John Ward is recorded as a wine merchant at Cushion Court , Old Broad Street, London, which is probably his business address as his residential address between 1861-1881 is given as 109 Dartmouth Road, Lewisham, London.

Will PM you with email address shortly )


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Thanks for these, goldie61. I would hazard a guess that the lease was an agreement with Thomas Jnr's  father, Thomas Ward Snr, and the will that of Thomas Snr's brother William Ward.

I've just spotted Elias T Ward listed in the 1851 census of England as head of household at "Langridge" so his uncle must have died sometime between 1841 & !851 - this might fit with the will dated 1842

The 1851 census also shows Elias' brother William Ward living or staying at "Langridge" , occupation "wine merchant". Perhaps this was the same wine business based in London that his brother John Ward became involved with after he returned to England in the early 1860s?

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This is great stuff - thanks so much. Yes, the baptism thing is an issue, but sometimes that date is all you can find to go by. Parents quite often seemed to wait and baptise several children together as job lot too, confusing things even more.

Did Thomas' twin sister Mary die, with her name given to a later sister? Seems likely if one Mary was baptised 1815 and another 1817. Also wonder about Thomas Jnr's wife- was he a widower, as there is no indication that he had a wife with him when he emigrated to NZ. Certainly not listed on the passenger manifest and Thomas seems to have been living as a bachelor after he arrived in Nelson.

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Parents:

Thomas Ward, gentleman, (b. ca 1786 and died at Crediton in 1838 aged 52) and Elizabeth nee Huggins. They married at Crediton, Devon ,24 November 1808.  I have found nothing of their parents, but it’s possible Thomas had a brother called William.

Four of their children emigrated to Nelson, New Zealand - Elizabeth, Mary, John & Thomas Jnr.


Children identified to date:


Elias Tremlett Ward (1810-1874). Born 5 April 1810, bapt. 2 December 1811. married Sarah Kingdon at Crediton on 4 December 1832. Sarah may have died quite early on – perhaps not long after the birth of their only child Elizabeth, b. 1834. At any rate, in 1841 Elias and his daughter lived at ‘Langridge” with William Ward (perhaps his uncle?) listed as the head of household and no sign of wife Sarah, but at some point Elias took over running ‘Langridge” himself.  In 1871 he was recorded as head of household at “Langridge Farm”, described at that time as being 284 acres in size and employing 14 labourers.
Was Elias the oldest in the family?

Note:
Charles Norrish and brother John Ward were the executors of Elias Ward’s will.


Elizabeth Ward  (1811- 1901) Bapt 2 Dec 1811 at Credition. Devon. Married master mariner Captain Edward Fearon on 11 February 1840 at St Olave Hart Street, Crutched Friars, London, Emigrated to New Zealand on the barque “Thomas Sparks” with her husband Captain Edward Fearon and brothers John & Thomas Ward, arriving at Nelson on 26 February 1843. Her first child, daughter Elizabeth Ludwig (Lizzie) Fearon, was born during the outward bound voyage. A few months later the Fearons settled at the nearby settlement of Motueka. Her brothers bought land at Stoke, just outside the city of Nelson. Elizabeth died at her home, “Northwood”, Motueka, New Zealand, on 1 January 1901.


Mary Ward bapt 12 Feb 1817 at Crediton, Devon – emigrated via ship “Bernicia” arriving at Nelson NZ (aged 31 and single) on 6 November 1848, along with her brother John and his new wife Caroline (nee Micklem). Lived with the Fearon family at their home, “”Northwood”, Motueka, NZ and married one of their neighbours, Charles Thorp Esq.of Motueka, at St Thomas’ Anglican Church, Motueka, on 11 April 1850 – Rev T. L. Tudor officiating.. Died at her home, ‘Burton Farm”, Motueka, on 8 Aug 1886.

John Ward (1818 –1904?), Born at Crediton 22 January 1818, bapt. 10 March 1819. Came to NZ with Edward and Elizabeth Fearon and brother Thomas Ward on the ship “Thomas Sparks”, arriving in Nelson 26 February 1843, Bought land at Stoke just outside the city of Nelson, which he farmed jointly with his brother Thomas (Tom) Ward. Travelled to England 1848 and married 22 April 1848 at Kensington, London, to Caroline Micklem from Hurly, Berkshire. Returned with his new wife and sister Mary Ward on the “Bernicia”, arriving 6 November 1848 at Nelson, NZ, where his first child, son John Micklem Ward, was born in 1849. John and his family had gone back to England to live by the 1860s. He established a successful business as a wine merchant in London, though maintained a link with “Langridge Farm” at Crediton.  Living at Withycombe Raleigh in Devon by 1891 and possibly died ca 1904.

Emma Ward (1825-1891) Bapt. 26 Oct 1825. Never married and lived in Devon until her death in 1891 at 66 years. Living in Zeal Monachorum Devon with the Norrishes and sister Elizabeth (nee Ward) and brother-in-law Edward Fearon in 1841, with brother Elias Ward at “Langridge Farm”, Crediton, in 1871 and recorded living with Skinner cousins in Zeal Monachorum in 1881and 1891 censuses. Skinners were Ward relatives via the Norrishes.

Thomas Ward Jnr. ? is my mystery man - I can find no record of his birth or death, though know he was known as Tom and travelled to NZ with his sister Elizabeth , brother-in-law Edward Fearon and brother John Ward on the barque ‘”Thomas Sparks”, arriving Nelson 26 February 1843. Unfortunately the passenger manifest doesn’t list their ages so doesn’t help with working out Thomas’ date of birth. Thomas and his brother John jointly established a farm at Stoke, just outside the city of Nelson, which they worked together until 1848  John then travelled back to England for a short visit and Thomas went to Motueka before taking over the management of a sheep run in the Awatere, Marlborough , NZ, on behalf of his brother-in-law, Edward Fearon. He then acquired his own sheep run in the Awatere, which he named “Langridge” after the family farm in Crediton. In 1859 he sold this run and then he vanishes again. Did he stay in NZ or, like his brother, return to England?  He possibly moved to Canterbury, NZ, but the name Thomas Ward is so common that without additional info like his age I can’t pinpoint him.  If anyone can help with this puzzle, I’d love to hear from you.


It’s possible there are other members of this family I haven’t yet found – if anyone can fill in gaps, I’d appreciate it. Would also be very interested to know just how long the Ward family was associated with “Langridge Farm” at Crediton.

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The Common Room / Re: Cambridge University Records
« on: Sunday 12 February 17 06:34 GMT (UK)  »
Worth noting that this information can also be accessed by doing an online search at
ACAD: A Cambridge Alumni Database
http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/Documents/acad/2016/search-2016.html
 

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