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World War Two / Re: War Medals
« on: Tuesday 29 March 22 12:28 BST (UK)  »
Try
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/medals-campaigns-descriptions-and-eligibility

If he was awarded medals and they became lost/stolen/sold then there is little or no chance you could trace them.
SW

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The Common Room / Re: Merchant Navy 1849 Ticket Record question
« on: Friday 18 March 22 13:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
In answer to the question "Does that sound likely" It would not be unusual for a voyage to last two or more years or it could be a case of "sloppy" recording.
Yes it's very difficult to read the ticket. The "A" on the top line is his rank and identifies him as an apprentice. As far as I can make out the vessel in question was registered in Liverpool and returned to that port.
The other number/s refere to the ships port rotation number. No "Key exists to match the PRN with the name of an individual ship.
Rather than trawling through literally 100's of crew agreements,
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_srt=5&_ep=liverpool&_cr=bt98&_dss=range&_sd=1853&_ed=1853&_ro=any&_st=adv
I would first of all try and find your ancestor in the Index of Merchant Navy Apprentice's.
His entry should be here.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C408524
Ask for a copy, I have no idea of the cost, so it's your call.
Caution should be taken as the date the indenture was registered, may be up to a year after the date of expiry.
The actual indenture documents, are in the series  BT151 but only every 5th year has been preserved.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1734250

SW

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The Lighter Side / Re: Information on Seamen
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 13:13 GMT (UK)  »
  There is some vague family story somebody got caught up in the Boxer Rebellion in China, however if he was still sailing then he would have been around 60 years - if still alive was 60 still an age to "sail" ?

In answer to your question. Simple answer. Yes! No pension in those days. I have come across old sailors who were well into their 80's and still at sea. Albeit on steamships
I have recently corresponded with a person on another forum who's ancestor was still at sea age 72! OK. He was a Master on sailing ships, so not clinging to rigging in a force 10!
An ordinary seaman would usually obtain a less strenuous position in is old age, such as Cook or Carpenter.
Re my last post.
If you do decide to ask TNA for a quote, be sure to ask for the Crew Agreement and Logbook of ALBION, Official number 24752 Otherwise they will quote you for the complete contents of the piece, which may contain  the LB's & CAs of sixty to seventy individual ship. Twenty odd with the name ALBION.

regards
SW



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The Lighter Side / Re: Information on Seamen
« on: Tuesday 15 March 22 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
There were over 20 vessels around in 1856/57 with the Name ALBION. I did a very quick search which would suggest the ship your man sailed on was the vessel who's official number was 24752.
If you wish to take your research further. Assuming they have survived. The first 1857 Logbook and Crew Agreement of ALBION can be obtained from the British National Archive. Logbooks and Crew Agreements are stored by the date the ship in question returned to a UK port.
Just hit the "Request a Copy" button and ask for a quote.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4069397
regards
SW

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Brilliant!
A great team effort. Once again. Thank You. You have made an old sailors day  :)

regards to all
seaweed

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Australia / Re: Burial place of Merchant Navy Cadet. Melbourne Victoria 1973
« on: Tuesday 08 March 22 12:28 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for your suggestions and links. I searched them all and others, with exact and expanded dates just in case my memory was a little rusty.  I could find nothing.
The burial service was conducted by a Priest from the Stella Maris organization, which I understand is Roman Catholic institution. I have emailed them in Melbourne to see if they can shed any light.


Regards
SW

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Thanks nanny jan,
I had tried that link already and came back with a negative response. I'm getting "CemSys API error: Bad Request." Maybe I'm not searching correctly. I have found details of his demise in the British Register of Deaths at Sea but it contains no record of where precisely he his buried.
regards SW

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Australia / Burial place of Merchant Navy Cadet. Melbourne Victoria 1973
« on: Monday 07 March 22 19:48 GMT (UK)  »
I,m Looking for the cemetery and burial plot of a British Merchant Navy Cadet James Alexander Murphy.
James was only 19 when he died whilst at sea off Western Australia on the 7th October 1973.
At the request of his parents he was buried in Melbourne on the 15th October. James was born in Liverpool UK.
An old shipmate wishes to pay his respects. Any help or guidance appreciated.

Regards
Seaweed

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I'm Looking for the cemetery and burial plot of a British Merchant Navy Cadet James Alexander Murphy.
James was only 19 when he died whilst at sea off Western Australia on the 7th October 1973.
At the request of his parents he was buried in Melbourne on the 15th October. James was born in Liverpool UK.
An old shipmate wishes to pay his respects. Any help or guidance appreciated.

Regards
Seaweed

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