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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Still trying to find William Henry Bakers death
« on: Tuesday 19 May 15 17:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I the William H Baker who died in St Martins in 1917 is actually William Harrard Baker and not Henry unfortunately, that is why I go the refund with that one from GRO.  It seemed the most likely one too!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Still trying to find William Henry Bakers death
« on: Tuesday 19 May 15 10:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Yes at first I put the information down saying I knew the Index numbers etc as I am a novice at this and did not realise that I could get them to search.  They actually rang me as the information was not exactly the same.  I have now actually sent all the years between 1914 and 1920 getting them to check either side!!  I am waiting for a reply so it may show up something I hope.

I had this information from the Forces war web site:

The uniform worn is that of the British Army, worn during the period 1902 - 1938, the cap badge worn is that of The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment).

The soldier shown holds the rank of Private. The Belt shown, looks to be the 1908 Mills Pattern Web Belt (3" in width). This belt was issued from 1908 until 1914.

No there was no family grave, i have tried to find where his wife was cremated but again hit a brick wall.  I thought maybe they would be in the same place. 

Sue


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Still trying to find William Henry Bakers death
« on: Tuesday 19 May 15 09:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi All
thanks for feed back.  I don't think he is the one in the report as he was a Porter for HMSO but again not sure if this was so at time of his death.
My grandmother said she could not really remember him but she was born in 1905 so if he died after the first world war that would have made her old enough I would have thought to remember him as she would have been a teenager.  I do have a man in uniform which I had sent to the Forces war and they verified it as a uniform worn in WW1 and that he was a private but again a dead end as there is no record of him. 

As regard to the inquest yes I agree that I definitely need that but how do i go about it without a DOB!

I do not have the newspaper article in person but my father remembers seeing it years ago.  He said that the crowd booed Charlotte Baker as they all blamed her for his death.  Again I have searched British newspaper archive but nothing there at mo.

It is a very common name.
 
I know my aunt has always said he died in his late 30s but alot of her information has proved to be inaccurate.  For example she stated my grandmother was born in 1914 just before the war and that is why she did not know her father but obviously that is totally inaccurate.

Would there be information if he served in the Boar war I have looked but again cannot find anything! 

kind regards

Sue

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Family History Beginners Board / Still trying to find William Henry Bakers death
« on: Monday 18 May 15 20:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I posted on here a while back as I am having trouble finding the death of William Henry Baker born 1882 in Bicester.  In the 1901 census he was in the Coldstream Guards but I cannot find anything else on him there.  He then married Charlotte Baker in 1905 and had a daughter Edith Millicent.  He was a Porter for the HMSO.  Then according to family he went into WW1 and was possibly in the Queens regiment West Surrey.  After the was he supposedly started to drink and threw himself in front of a train possibly at Vauxhall.  I have found him on the 1912  electoral role but nothing after that.  They lived at 2 Wilkie Buildings in the City of Westminster at the old prison.  He definitely died by 1927 as he is shown as deceased on my grandmothers wedding certificate.  I have tried several WH Bakers who died around about that time ie St Martins, Greenwich, St Pancras but they have all been refunded by the GRO.  I have also tried the coroners office but they said they need the DOB and area of death.  There is a newspaper article about the coroners inquest at the time as people were shouting at Williams wife Charlotte blaming her for his death.  I really am going round in circles and would appreciate any help in where I can go next.
Thanks

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Need help finding the death of William Henry Baker
« on: Thursday 02 April 15 08:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi
At first I thought he had not been in war as I thought he was only in army before he married but then I widened the search and have ordered certificates for 1918 which searched 1917 and 1920 and came up with nothing.  Is there anywhere else I can look like Newspapers and if so which is the best web site?

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Need help finding the death of William Henry Baker
« on: Wednesday 01 April 15 20:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi
My Great grandfather was born in 1882 in Bicester Oxford.  In the 1901 census he is listed as a Private in the Coldstream Guards, I have a photo of him in uniform.  In 1905 he married a Charlotte Spencer and in 1905 they had a daughter Edith Millicent Baker.  On the wedding certificate his occupation is a Porter in her Majesties Service.  In the 1911 census he is living at 2 Wilkie Buildings Westminster.  I then find him on the Electoral roll in 1912.  Apparently he was in the war and then when he comes out he began to drink heavily and ended up committing suicide by walking in front of a train.  There was a newspaper article to this effect whereby the neighbours blamed his wife and shouted abuse at her.  However I cannot find anything to this effect or his death.  I have requested several certificates from GRO for around 1914 and 1917 dates but they have come back negative.  I am thinking that he died between 1918 and 1923ish, but cannot find anything on him between 1912 and his death!  Could anyone suggest where else I might look.  I find the National Archive site very confusing but would I find info on there?  Also surely a suicide would be documented!?
Thanks

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Tracing a child without a name!
« on: Saturday 28 March 15 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Just wanted to thank everyone for their contribution.  The birth certificate for Rosemary Eliza Coleman and it is the sister of my grandfather.  I feel quite sad   :'( that we were denied the chance to grow up with a member of our family, and especially for my grandfather who was always affected by his mother running off and leaving him.  Anyway I have found another branch of the family.  Thanks guys.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Tracing a child without a name!
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 11:53 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I agree I have bitten the bullet and ordered the birth certificate!!  I have only made one mistake with ordering the wrong certificate so hopefully my instinct will win again in this case.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Tracing a child without a name!
« on: Saturday 21 March 15 11:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Yes I realised that after avm228 that she married in 1920 but she states married on 1911 census as I have found happens alot!  I will follow this path though as it looks the most likely re Rosemary (stepdaughter)
James Powell died in Worthing where his daughter Elisabeth Tamar lived this was a daughter from his first marriage to Johanna Farthing.  They were all disgusted when he married the maid when his wife died!! 

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