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I did eliminate the Dye marriage from contention because Joseph (not John) is living with his grandparents (maternal) in both the 1861 census as well as the 1871 census (which is the last census before he marries at age 16 in '72).

I already have the birth registration of Joseph (her son) and he was born in Aug 1855, so even if they put "John" in error the birth info didn't line up.

I also eliminated the Dye marriage because Mary Ann was born Trewick and a minor consideration is that the surname is listed as "Gill" rather than "Gills" (Which I know could be an error in the document and I wouldn't be hung up on if the rest of the information fit).

Edited to add: I don't know if this link will work but here is my Ancestry page on Joseph: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/71023549/person/48235829484?pgnum=1

i was thinking of more finding a father's name associated with the cert....

there are so many Mary Ann Gills in the area during this time...that I don't want to spend money, wait a month for it to get here, just to have it be the wrong person KWIM?

Hello again.


So I am looking to find out what happened to Mary Ann Gills post 1855.

I found a marriage record  (or rather: I found matching record index numbers) for Mary Ann Gills and Andrew Thompson on FreeBMD (Dec 1860 Newcastle T 10b 24)

Two assumptions:

1. Newcastle T = Newcastle Upon Tyne
2. Since the names share the same BMD numbers, they married eachother.

So I went to look on FreeReg to see if I could find a parish entry under either one of these names- and I am coming up with nothing.

I would think that if there is a civil registration of marriage then there must be a parish that performed the ceremony.  Am I wrong?

I wanted to make sure that this was the correct Mary Ann (her parents are Robert and Jane Gills. She was born Ponteland abt 1833 [Christening date 07 Apr 1833] and is the natural mother of Joseph Gills [aka Joseph Young]) before I ordered the cert listed.

On it!  Much faster than waiting on the post! 

I feel silly that I forgot to check FreeBMD....I did ancestry, freeReg, and familysearch. 


I don't know why it didn't show on Ancestry... I had searched +/-5 years.



Thanks