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yes indeed they are many thanks for all your help Im still reeling over Williams wife Mary nee Brodigan dying in her 40s too just like her aunt whom she came over from Ireland to help,so sad because she was a good woman to take on the kiddies,Thank you so much  that leaves me now with only Joseph to find he was the only one left out of all her boys    Thanks so much Berniex

Thank you so much yes I went to find my past and looked it up 128 kingsmill RD  its so difficult looking up Thomas and Jone's in wales  I tried to find out what had happened to the son john who was 3 in 1901  when i put it up  it cane back with tons of john's Born wrexham 1898 couldn't try them all  I'm hoping somebody reading this will have them in their tree,  anyway many thanks for your interest much appreciated  Berniex

Thank you so much for your help yes I did know about the cousins Richard Mark was actually a cousin of Mary Brodigans( williams wife) she came over to look after the children when her aunt died as their father had run off with another woman Harriet was Richards wife,I am trying to find this family and that is why  I wanted to know if maybe there had been more children,its like looking for a needle in a Haystack asking about a family named Thomas on a Welsh site!! that is why i posted the titbits hopingsomebody had this family in research,The funny thing is that they lived in Esclusham Below in Wrexham (when they still had a father) but also Living in the row of cottages  a family named Thomas with  a son william daughter sarah so they must of known one another?  Thanks so much for your interest I will have to try and find them on 1911 and see what other family members lived with them  ta ever so much  bernie

hello I have a copy of her death cert  def Turner I just know they were married and I think it would of been a roman Catholic church I was wondering  if there was one near Rifle court Bradford when they had their first son  She  had a tragic time didn't she ? I dint even think Lews family bothered over much with her although one of her daughters Julia was living with her Father n law  at one time but it was her niece who was present when she died and WHO looked after the kids,Mary seem to have a baby every year no wonder her heart gave out  thanks for your input much appreciated always good on this site so many people help even getting old photo's done wonderful people out there  Berniex

hello Yorkshire this is my first posting in your county and I am looking for help,I am trying to trace a marriage for my gg/father Llewellyn TURNER and Mary BRODIGAN,he was born Ruthin Wales in 1848 she was born Drogheda Ireland 1844,I am trying your board because I have tried everywhere and can't find a marriage,I feel sure they would have been married because I have all the Baptism cert for her siblings in Ireland so it mattered to them also when Mary died In Wrexham she was buried in a village churchyard but she did have a catholic priest to Officiate so I reckon they would have been married ,The reason I am trying your board is that they had their first child in Bradford 1872 named Thomas Edward Turner no 5 Rifle court,it states mother Mary Turner formally Brodigan.Llewellyn is down as labourer on the railway Does anybody have any idea how I can check these folk out I know where they ended up and their second son was born in Drogheda after that all the rest in Wrexham.I'm just thinking maybe they had to get married and if they did I think it would of been in Yorkshire Maybe they met there I would be most grateful for any help  thanks Bernie