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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / can anyone date this please or restore my 2nd Great Grandmother Ann Cresswell
« on: Tuesday 14 April 15 20:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
attached is a scan of an old tin photograph which sadly is now lost, and this is all we have left.
We believe it to be my 2nd Great Grandmother Ann Cresswell (Owen, Reeves). If it is possible to date the photo, it will narrow down as to whether it is her or her daughter, my Great Grandmother Sarah Owen. I must say the likeness to my Grandmother Ada is uncanny.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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The Lighter Side / Re: A Wee Giggle
« on: Sunday 12 April 15 20:02 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: jaybelnz on Sunday 15 March 15 10:12 GMT (UK)

 a couple of newbies who were relying on the little green leaves coming in to them from Ancestry, and thinking they were gospel! Not the best road for people just beginning their journey,"but ancestry says so and so was the son of so and so, so must be right".

Those green leaves are hateful. One popped up for my maternal Grandma, to whom I was extremely close, and who died at the age of 90 years and 11 months, in Oldham, Lancashire. Believe it or not someone in the USA had found her birth, marriage and 1911 census, decided that she was their relative and moved her death to Illinois USA!!! Of course the little green hint was correct wasn't it, so half a dozen others had saved MY gran to their trees with the wrong death and burial.

Back on subject, one of my ancestors married Martha, had two daughters with her named Anne and Hannah, married again when she died this time to an Ann, and had another two daughters named Anna and Annie... at least if he shouted Ann one of them must have answered him  ;D
Worse still, throughout his daughter's (my 2x great) she interchanged her name between Ann, Annie, Anna, and Hannah  ::)

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The Lighter Side / Re: Old Sayings and Modern Counterparts
« on: Sunday 12 April 15 19:45 BST (UK)  »
Just come across this thread and having read through 18 pages, some very familiar sayings, some I've never heard before. A couple more for you...

In response to the kids mithering (pronounced in Manchester as MY-the-ring and meaning to pester)

"when Jesus comes round with his money cart"
" Go see if there's any pennies on't tree"

Another of my Great Grandmas sayings " If you've none to make you laugh (children), you've none to make you cry"
If we ever dared to ask why, my mum would always say "because Why's not Z and Zeds not Y)

"Change the record" when someone carried on complaining
"Needles got stuck" when someone kept singing the same lines of a song over and over
and one that really confuses my 17 year old, "Take the phone of the hook" - What hook, you can't hang up an Iphone!  ;D ;D

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The Common Room / Re: Interchangeable names- when do we consider them?
« on: Saturday 11 April 15 17:01 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: LizzieL on Friday 10 April 15 17:29 BST (UK)
Your Ann must be the daughter of Jarvis and Martha Barlow. Then Jarvis married Ann Boswell after Martha's death. The Jarvis who married Ann Boswell was 38 at marriage so born abt 1818 and his father was Thomas. The age fits with the Jarvis who is married to Martha in 1851. Details of the marriage of Jarvis and Martha would confirm the father to check it is the same Jarvis.
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I think you're right. After (re)signing up for Find my Past, I've searched and cross-referenced with Ancestry and FreeReg.  All roads point to Jarvis and Martha.
Unfortunately some of the hints that show up with other peoples trees dont show due diligence with Jarvis and Martha having children late into their (very) old age. Checking and cross-referencing would help them enormously.

Thank you everyone for your help and input.

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The Common Room / Re: Interchangeable names- when do we consider them?
« on: Friday 10 April 15 15:12 BST (UK)  »
Unfortunately  the marriage on find my past to Ann Boswell is 1856 - even considering lack of education, I think 8 years after my Ann was born is bit of a stretch.

This is what I have so far, not much I admit:
Ann Bridgwood Birth:   Abt.1848   Stoke,Staffordshire,England
Mother: Not known as yet possibly Ann
Father:  Jabez Bridgwood (Jarvis, Jervis or Janis)
Spouse:   James Hull (1851 – 1900)
Marriage:   14 Mar1869   Manchester,Lancashire,England;   
witnessed by Jervis Bridgwood and Hannah Bridgwood ( I have certificate)
Residence:   1881   Droylsden, Lancashire,England;   Relation to Head of House: Wife;
Children:
Elizabeth Hannah Hull 1871 – 1958
George Hull 1876 –
Elizabeth Hull 1879 –
Martha Hull 1882 – 1976 (I remember my Great Grandmother Martha, a very strict lady and religious)

on the 1881 census Ann is Hannah a cotton weaver, James her husband is a carter, which incidentally is the trade listed for both himself and Jabez/Jarvis on the wedding certificate

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The Common Room / Re: Interchangeable names- when do we consider them?
« on: Friday 10 April 15 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Wow, came on this morning and found all your replies THANK YOU ALL
I've looked at this through the habit our ancestors had of choosing names based on those already within the family, both Ann, Annie, Anna, Hannah, Martha, are used a lot and within the same family, at the same time, if that makes sense, almost as though they liked the sound of the name, and if they shouted one to come, they would actually get one coming to see who was needed  ;D

Jane, Elizabeth and Sarah don't appear very much in that branch, Thomas, Jervis (Jarvis/Jabez and the odd Janis)  but no Williams. By the time my Grandfather and his siblings were born, Doris, Martha Hannah, George, Samuel, John, William and Robert had appeared. Given those names, I'm stretching horizons to see if they appear further back in any census.

You have all given me some food for thought, so once again Thank you, I'll keep you updated...tonight I have some researching to do  ;) unhappy hubby I think

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The Common Room / Interchangeable names- when do we consider them?
« on: Thursday 09 April 15 21:04 BST (UK)  »
I have a bit of a brick wall that I have been trying to knock down for quite a while now.
My 2nd Great Grandmother Ann Bridgwood (never appears to have the spelling Bridgewood although she appears variously as Anne, Ann, Anna, Annie and Hannah) born about 1848 and her parents. I have her wedding certificate in my possession, 14 March 1869 to James Hull witnessed by Jervis Bridgwood and Hannah Bridgwood. I also have located her in 1881 and 1891 in the census. But prior to those I can find little on her. Her father is on the certificate as Jabez Bridgwood. They apparently came to Manchester from Stoke.
The nearest I can find is on the 1861 census,
Jarvis Bridgwood age   44
Ann Bridgwood   age 40
Jarvis Bridgwood   age 16
Anna Bridgwood age   12
William Bridgwood age 10
Hannah Bridgwood age 8
John Bridgwood   age 3

In this she would be the 12 year old. But then, could Jabez be Jarvis (sometimes spelled Jervis), it could, I suppose sound similar, and would explain why Jabez is only used once in a family who seem to re-use names constantly.

Any thoughts would be welcome please

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Lancashire / Re: Missing street name, Miles Platting, Manchester
« on: Wednesday 08 April 15 19:30 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: TOM1972 on Thursday 26 January 12 17:03 GMT (UK)
What makes this even more confusing is that at some time, some of the street names were changed.  Newburgh St became Ollerton St, etc. Why can't they leave things alone!  Thanks for all your help folks, it is very much appreciated.  I think this is going to be one of those searches! ;D

My Grandparents grew up in this area, I remember being told that streets with German sounding names (like Newburgh Street) had the names changed due to the war. I have a large scale map of the Ancoats area that I can check for you

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