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Somerset / Re: John Balne and Ellizabeth Boucher - origins
« on: Thursday 27 August 15 03:40 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again, David (sorry, didn't notice your name signature earlier). You have been super helpful. And now that I have discovered the new imporoved FreeReg, that will become very useful too. I can see many happy hours ahead trawling their database and googling villages I'd never heard of.  :)

Mel

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Somerset / Re: John Balne and Ellizabeth Boucher - origins
« on: Wednesday 26 August 15 11:49 BST (UK)  »
Ah, that makes more sense - and interesting about the rush to enrol at election time!

Unfortunately I have little else. Most of the Balnes seem to originate (or at least congregate in the 17th C) around Snaith. Balne was a parish of Snaith, now a separate village or town.

I am working from a son John (or possibly Jonathan - being referred to as Jno.) Balne who is the son of the Bristol John, who seems to have moved (collecting wife and kids along the way) to Poole and then to Fordingbridge in Hampshire.

These seem to be death records for John the son and his wife Mary:
John Balne who dies in Poole in 1842: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JQM-WQ8 - seems likely to be this one.
A Mary Balne who dies in Poole in 1838: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NRQ-PJJ

And I'm thinking that his is probably the burial record for John the father:
buried in Bristol on 13 June 1766: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J86T-6M2

(Quite likely unrelated, but the earliest Balne I could find in Somerset is Richard Balne, who is present for the christening of daughter Elyzabeth in 1610: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J31W-P9W and dies in 1629:https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDQ1-GZP)

As for the pronunciation and spelling: I believe that the village in Yorkshire is pronounced "Bawn", but that my closer ancestors pronounced it "Ballin" (west country influence?). Hence quite possible that some surnames were written as Bawn or Baun... but anyway, the one who ended up in Hampshire via Dorset spelt his name Balne and passed it down spelt thus.

I don't know anything about their occupations other than a son of John Jr was apparently a carpenter... The two sons' names were John Humphrey Pinhorn B and Vincent George Boucher B - each taking a name from mother and grandmother, so that fits.

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Somerset / Re: John Balne and Ellizabeth Boucher - origins
« on: Wednesday 26 August 15 02:06 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, DRH - this is great information!

I'm just a little confused about the Jameses though, so you you please confirm or correct my understanding of the following.

John is son of James (tailor), whose wife is Betty.

James (victualler) becomes burgess in 1740 (probably coming from elsewhere). His son James (labourer) becomes a burgess via his father in 1774.

John (by now a tailor himself) becomes a Burgess in 1755 - by inheritance and apprenticeship. (And marries Elizabeth in 1758.)

What I don't understand is whether you mean James the victualler is the same person as James the tailor.. but this can't be right because he would be quite a lot older than brother John?

Sorry for being dense. What does seem likely is that John's father was called James, at least!

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Somerset / John Balne and Ellizabeth Boucher - origins
« on: Tuesday 25 August 15 12:29 BST (UK)  »
These two got married in 1758 in Bristol.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFY2-8LZ

I'm interested in finding anything more about their forebears, in paricular the link which I think exists from John Balne back to Yorkshire (Snaith), where I it seems they all originated from.

I haven't started on the Bouchers and know nothing about them at this stage. Any information welcome.

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