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The Common Room / Mutation of surnames
« on: Saturday 24 December 16 17:17 GMT (UK)  »
I have just completed transcription of 1830-1885 baptisms for Turton in Lancashire.  During that period I have watched a fairly unusual surname evolve.  Of course it is possible that three different families arrived and departed without overlapping, but I believe not; and it is also possible that different clerics had divergent opinions about spelling the name.  What began as Melladieu (odd enough to begin with, in a rural parish) in 1831 to 1836, became Mellody during the 1850s and 1860s, finally being recorded as Mellray or Mellery from 1872 onwards.  It's as though each new generation wanted a change.

I wonder where Melladieu originated?

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The Common Room / Coincidental mis-indexing
« on: Thursday 15 December 16 17:45 GMT (UK)  »
My wife has just come across a 1919 marriage where each partner's surname has been mistyped in the GRO index.  Mr Seyburn apparently married Ms Blakenay, while Ms Blakeney married Mr Leyburn.  It seems rather unusual for that to happen in a typed, not handwritten, index - though I presume those were compiled from handwritten index cards?

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The Common Room / Early Victorian registration
« on: Thursday 15 December 16 09:28 GMT (UK)  »
We know that until about 1875 most B & D registration was achieved by registrars trawling for it (proactively) rather than individuals visiting an office and reporting.  Presumably when travel was slow and limited that was the most likely way to make it work.

My recent discovery (from the new GRO index) of an unknown sibling for my gt-grandfather showed that this did not always happen.  Twins were born in 1842 in Devon and registered by the father the next day.  Sadly one died after five days, and that was registered in the same way just two days later.  That would have meant a two-mile trip into Ashburton, assuming there was a registry there - or if there wasn't, a lot further to Newton Abbot.  I suppose it may have been market day or something, but it shows remarkable respect for authority?

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Devon Lookup Requests / Tarrs of Ashburton
« on: Friday 02 December 16 09:26 GMT (UK)  »
I have been looking for baptism and burial records for Ashburton parish, with special reference to my ancestors at Goodstone Farm, who left for Ireland about 1854 (some returned in the early 1880s).  Are any registers accessible online?

Thanks         Andrew

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The Common Room / No given name?
« on: Thursday 17 November 16 12:08 GMT (UK)  »
On the baptism registers for Turton that I am transcribing I have come across two fathers apparently named Turner Turner and (more oddly) Fish Fish.  Does this mean that they only carry a family name (or perhaps are unwilling to reveal a given name) and the cleric was obliged to fill in a 'father's name' to show he was properly married to the mother?

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Clutching at straws
« on: Tuesday 15 November 16 12:58 GMT (UK)  »
A few days ago I was shown how to reach the baptism registers for Auckland, Co.Durham, and was speedily assisted.  That query developed from a 'fuzzy' marriage certificate relating to my wife's gt-gt-grandfather Ralph Burn (b.1816).  The certificate records a marriage between Ralph BURNS and Elizabeth ANDREWS on 5 February 1849 at St.Andrew's, Newcastle/Tyne.  Ralph is known to have married Elizabeth Anderson (daughter of Robert) as suggested by their first child Robert Anderson Burn, born June 1850.  Most info on the certificate is fairly correct (Tanner ~ leather-dresser, and Shoemaker ~ cordwainer) although Ralph was actually a widower, not a bachelor.

I would like to see what is recorded in the original church register, but I haven't managed to get to it yet ....

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The Common Room / Conflicting sources - any help?
« on: Saturday 12 November 16 23:25 GMT (UK)  »
I have found different parents for Elizabeth Anderson born 25.9.1825, bap. 25.12.1827 in Auckland, Co.Durham.  Both sources say her father was Robert.  One says her mother was Ann; the other source claims Deborah, also saying that Elizabeth was baptised with her brothers Matthew and Robert.

The marriage to Deborah was at Paddington on 21.3.1822, which all seems very consistent.  Robert seems to have been born in 1766 and Deborah about 20 years later, also consistent with the children ceasing in 1830.  The other Robert (married to Ann) is reported to be much younger; I suspect this is false information as it claims the same birth and baptism dates.

Does anyone have access to the original Auckland church register, who might settle this question?

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The Common Room / Dates on Baptism Register
« on: Tuesday 11 October 16 23:18 BST (UK)  »
While transcribing my 1810-1850 Lancashire registers I have found two examples suggesting that although the first column is headed 'When baptised' (or words to that effect) that may not be the case.  The first example is a group of four individuals who were entered twice, the second time allegedly three days after the first.  The other was of one individual re-entered after about two months.  So I am wondering whether the minister (who was the incumbent for many years) often just entered today's date, or last Sunday's ?

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The Common Room / Progress
« on: Wednesday 21 September 16 18:53 BST (UK)  »
As some will remember, I have been transcribing baptisms for a rural parish near Bolton Lancs for 1770 to 1840 (so far).  It was an upland area with moorland and streams suitable for powering mills.  As I proceed it has been interesting to see what changes and what doesn't.  Some of my observations:

In 1770 more than half the fathers were Weavers, with the remainder farmers, chapmen, blacksmiths, wheelwrights and a few other normal occupations.  By 1790 whitsters and printers were appearing, to process the output of the looms (whitster = whitener, i.e. bleacher), and there was even one Excise Officer.  A little later most of the printers were described as Calico printers.  By 1840 there are a great number of plain Labourers, which would commonly be Ag.Labs, but may have been mill workers, and the word Bleacher appears for the first time.

At the beginning the registers showed only 15 to 20 family names (with few exceptions), some fairly unusual (Rostron, Mayoh) and others simply local (Entwisle, Bradshaw, Bury).  By 1840 those were still there, but with plenty of incomers to join in the calico printing and other mechanised processes.

In 1770 baptisms for unmarried mothers were rare, about 2-3 percent.  By 1840 the rate was up to 7 percent, and the mother's occupation was almost exclusively Weaver.  I'm not sure whether that means they were all mill girls (there are still plenty of farmers on the register) or whether Weaver was the standard occupation offered in those circumstances.  Any suggestions?

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