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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Thursday 24 September 15 19:35 BST (UK)  »
thank you sinann - i looked at this last night but decided against subscribing because when i searched for both louisa and benjamin i had no results returned
the baptism records on family search do not have an image available would there be an image then on rootsireland?
x kath

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Thursday 24 September 15 18:57 BST (UK)  »
agreed haywood - could well be the couple but cant link them to benjamin and louisa
ive had a quote from limerick genealogy of 35 euros for a baptism search and 80 euros for a family search
way too much considering we cant link them to louisa for certain
im a novice in researching (thats obvious to all) so just wondered if the actual church might have records or are they archived in the same place?
kath

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Wednesday 23 September 15 21:12 BST (UK)  »
ive hit another brick wall  ???
trying to find out where to order a birth certificate and ni direct only go back so far ...from 1864
is there anywhere i can go for a pay per view to see an image of a birth certificate for 1826 in limerick ?
or something ......................................

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Wednesday 23 September 15 18:37 BST (UK)  »
noted haywood
i wasnt convinced that the furriers were close relatives until i found the benjamin in college but his fathers profession was a leather tanner so fits in with furriers i suppose
the simon kircner who left a will in 1818 was a furrier at the same address as the early furriers and the later furrier rebecca kirchner..great britain street dublin
 i really need those birth certs dont i - one of rebecca to see fathers profession and to see if she had a middle name louisa and probably benjamin simon b 1818 seeing as he grew up to be a cabinet maker
thanks for your help
x kath

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Wednesday 23 September 15 17:47 BST (UK)  »
stepping back a bit to my original post -
were looking for benjamin kirchner cabinet maker father of louisa kirchner born limerick

weve got benjamin simon kirchner born 1781 in dublin father simon kirchner leather tanner
weve got benjamin kirchner working in india 1809 to 1812
weve got simon kirchner cabinet maker bankrupt in 1824 so a possible fit for benjamins father

weve got samuel kirchner cabinet maker death through intoxication in a public house 1826 (obviously the black sheep of the family )


the three boys born in limerick are children of simon and mary 1818 t0 1821
the 2 girls born there are children of simon and margaret 1825/6
 i think the next step is to see if these 2 simons are one and the same or is one a furrier and one a cabinet maker
theres also a simon kirchner b ireland living with his brother benjamin , cabinet maker , in birmingham 1861
i think ill have to buy copies of birth certs for 2 of these children to sort out this muddle

i agree with Phil that the christian name of simon being common between furriers and cabinet makers could suggest a link but may be as cousins not necessarily as siblings
kath

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Wednesday 23 September 15 17:07 BST (UK)  »
Agreed - I've also ploughed through the newspaper references late 1770 onwards when there is a lot of Dublin activity but post 1800 mentions are few and far between. The only "non Dublin" mention I could find re. Ireland (apart from 1824 "Simon, cabinet maker, Debtor's court") is an Eliza Kirchner, only daughter of George Kirchner, who married a George Carr in Cork, I believe.

(Re. the 1841 Census and a Louisa in Swansea, address "The Strand", I was in the Strand last Friday afternoon having a beer - very enjoyable).
i was there on sunday  ;D

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Sunday 20 September 15 12:50 BST (UK)  »
well i slept on it and im still struggling to see that the 2 wedding certificates and her death certificate and all 6 censuses are wrong about her d.o.b. and that the census of 1841 is the only correct one
sorry to be such a pain phil :o
found this old post which has a quote taken from a book
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=199256.0
so not conclusive that of full age on her wedding cert of 1848 means she was over 21

the kirchner that died of intoxication in the pub was samuel kirchner not simon kirchner so yet another kirchner in limerick with no signs of birth nor baptism .... details printed in a newspaper but no record of a death certificate when you search
btw phil managed to pinpoint my miner to cardigan so only 36 entries to check out instead of 30,000 ;D
kath

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Sunday 20 September 15 00:41 BST (UK)  »
cant believe im saying this but if louisa was born 1833 then it opens the possibility that her father was in fact benjamin simon kirchner , cabinet maker who had a fling with his stepmother after his father died  ::)
on that note im off to bed
thanks to everyone whos helped today
xkath

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: alumni dublinenses help please
« on: Saturday 19 September 15 23:38 BST (UK)  »
no sinann- just margaret and patrick gahagan plus louisa kirknon
x kath

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