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Whoops, made a big error, if this source is accurate:

Doctor John Dempsey, appointed Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin in 1694, appears to have been a native of this Parish, and also to have resided in it. In the Return of Parish Priests, made in 1704, is the following:-“ John Dempsey, residing at Kilmurry, aged 63, P.P. of Kilraney, ordained on Whit Sunday, 1664, at Clonkeene, King’s County, by Anthony Geoghegan, Bishop of Meath; having for his sureties, Robert Daly of Calvesland,Gent., and Colonel John Wogan of Rathcoffy.” This entry most probably refers to the Bishop, (see Vol. I., p. 72 for corresponding dates.)   The Dempseys have continued to reside at Kilmurry up to our own times.

https://www.kildare.ie/ehistory/2006/07/carbury_parish_of_comerfords_d.asp

It was Clonkeen in Co. Offaly.  Elsewhere I thought I had read that it was the local Carbury Parish or Balyna Kildare, where John was a local priest or resided for a while.

I wonder how they knew it was his native parish.  Oral history maybe?  Don't know whether to take it at face value or not.

Here is presumably the right location on logainm:
https://www.logainm.ie/en/41656

If I follow, it doesn't appear on the Down Survey.

I looked at the fiant for 1602 and there was no Dempsy.  Not quite sure how to check the later sources yet.
 

Thanks, Sinann and Wexflyer,

I feel sorry for making Sinann look for something that is not there.

I thought the number of English people seemed unusually high.

I guess another possibility is that part was lost or burned.

Is there any part of Kildare that survives?  I only recall looking at certain parts of Offaly and Westmeath.

I thought that most of the survey was destroyed, and it is only some books that a French privateer stole from an English ship which survive.  Or maybe, I am misremembering it?

I think for certain parts of Ireland, they already had good maps and so didn't survey them.  But I forget whether these have terriers or not.

I'd be a bit curious if you can actually get a look at that manuscript page that lists the names for the parish.  I'd really like to know just one thing:

I'm wondering if he was actually called a papist when the survey and as made.

I think it is definitely possible.

As I recall the 1641 landowners religion listed by the website does not perfectly correspond to the religion listed in the manuscript.  Rather, it is what people claimed they were afterwards in about 1670, or maybe that they converted.

I have heard that Dudley Colley was a royalist, which I find really interesting.  Later on, I saw a reference where he was called a captain.  Not completely certain that means he was a captain in the Cromwellian war for the royalists, but I think so.

In that case, his land must have definitely been taken from him, and he must have gotten it back.

Thanks Sinann,

I forget exactly how it works since it has been a few years since I used the site, and it does not seem to work well on my phone.

But when you get to the parish level on the maps.  I think there should be some option to view a sheet of the proprietors.   (A word that maybe begins with "T") I forget the exact word they use for it.  That is, the landowners before Cromwell.  This manuscript sheet has a description of the parish on the left side and a list of townlands, their acreage, and owners on the right side.  It lists their religion, often calling people 'Irish papists" or something like "Ir. pap.". These were generally the people to lose their lands.  But it also lists Protestants.

The names that appear on this list are the ones that the website, I believe  somewhat arbitrarily, calls 1641 landowners.  They are what I have called the "before names."

To get the "after names"(what the website calls "1670 landowners" , I think you might have to plug in the before names into the 1641 field.  I forget whether these are the people who were given the land, or whether it includes any who recovered their land.

https://downsurvey.tchpc.tcd.ie/landowners.php

I'd still be interested in the names, even if neither was "Dempsy."

One thing I have just recently realized is that they weren't just randomly in Kilmurry. (Where they were in 1704) They were there because they were in the retinue of the Viscountess Dempsy (maiden name Anne Bermingham),  and she either owned the land, or had at one time.

After looking carefully at this reference on logainm.ie:

Leabhar Mór na nGenealach: The Great Book of Irish Genealogies, compiled by Dubhaltach Mac Fhirbhisigh, 1- 5 Áit foilsithe: Dublin, Bliain: 1650c, Údar: Nollaig Ó Muraíle, Bliain foilsithe: 2003

I am thinking it refers to the modern volume published in 2003 or 2004 and not the manuscript.  Guessing it is not available online.