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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Blair, Carnwath 1845?
« on: Thursday 15 October 20 09:18 BST (UK)  »
The relationships for the 1851 census ( the one in a 'block' ) are
1851 Forth, Carnwath
( all  born Carnwath except wife )
John Bryce             61 pauper and miner
Christina Bryce      53  wife born Douglas
Jane Bryce              31  dau outdoor labourer
Christina Gilchrist  15  g-dau outdoor labourer 
James Queen        12  g-son miner
Mary Jane Blair       7  g-dau
Jane Blair                5  g-dau
Joseph Blair            1  g-son
Andrew Wishart      1  g-son

There are 2 further Queens in Carnwath in 1851 - 2 kiddies, gchildren with a family Young

But there are several more Queens in Bathgate/Whitburn
Now strangely, The MacDonald I mentioned above came from Bathgate - my best guess is that he was a carter
Does the 1861 census with the one Queen tell what his occupation was, please?

[ and, again I think, that that sister...…. is sisterilligit ]


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Lanarkshire / Re: Mary Blair, Carnwath 1845?
« on: Thursday 15 October 20 08:57 BST (UK)  »
I think James Blair had many 'friends'
All below in Carnwath unless otherwise stated

1820 Maria Blair born to J B and Janet Fairlie
1841 Janet Fairlie 45 dressmaker
1841 Maria Blair  20 **

1823 William Blair born to J B and Isobel Steel *
1841 Isobel Steel 35  ( in Avondale )
1851 William Steel 27 + Mary Ann 22 sister

1824 James Blair born to J B and Margaret Justin

1825 Agnes Blair born to J B and Isobel Steel  * ( in Lanark ) ( Agnes is my gg-granny )
1827 Mary Ann born to J B and Isobel Steel 

1831 J B married Helen Smith
1832 James Blair born Lanark
1833 Joseph born
1835 Jean born Carluke
1838 John born Carluke
1841 J B 40, Ellen Smith (= Helen) 35, Annie 15, James 8, Joseph 6, Jane 5, John 4, Maria 20 **
( is Annie = Mary Ann )( and Jane = Jean )
1843 Helen born

I need help too - any errors - any more info

Agnes above became my gg-granny. She married Isaac Hutchison, Their son John was born a MacDonald. Two years later when Isaac married Agnes John became a 'Hutchison'. Which adds to my non-surprise about J B's activity

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Re: Hutchison family
« on: Monday 12 October 20 06:21 BST (UK)  »
I'm afraid it is a "No"

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Re: Hutchison family
« on: Sunday 11 October 20 23:19 BST (UK)  »
No - that birth makes him too young. My James was a son of James Hutchison and Betty Stewart. James was born 1774 and the family was in Lanark at this time. I have been through the siblings of each generation and my first Thomas appears in 1872 ( son of Isaac H and Agnes Blair ). So sorry
again if I have misled you.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Re: Hutchison family
« on: Sunday 11 October 20 17:12 BST (UK)  »
[ Always amazed how one keeps going -----]

Two of the last Thomases were b to Robert Hutchison/Hutcheson and Agnes Main/Mayne in 1807-1813. My own possible James Hutcheson ( father of Isaac ) was b 1799 to the same couple.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Re: Hutchison family
« on: Sunday 11 October 20 16:53 BST (UK)  »
1861 has in Carnwath
Thomas Hutchison 27
Euphemia             23
Thomas                  1

In 1851, the nearest Thomas in age and place is 18-y-o in Cambusnethan, a farm servant with farmer Carmichael on Edinburgh Road. Born in Carnwath.

In 1841 he would be the 8-y-o in Carnwath on his own with Elizabeth Noble 45 farmer

And so he becomes the Thomas born 1832 in Carnwath to Thomas Hutchison and Elizabeth Bannatyne.

And ( guessing now ) this Thomas was born in Carstairs between 1807 and 1813, three possibles, none of which match my lot at the time. Sorry. Beware two of those are Hutchesons with an E.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Re: Hutchison family
« on: Saturday 10 October 20 23:22 BST (UK)  »
Yes Isaac ran in the family. There was Isaac 1815, father of Isaac 1862. It was this one's brother, John 1848, who was father of my granny Catherine 1878. but it turns out that granny's father was born John McDonald, not Hutchison.

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Family History Beginners Board / John McDonald
« on: Saturday 10 October 20 20:15 BST (UK)  »
Another Carnwath 'Hutchison' was John Hutchison. But he only became a Hutchison when aged 2, his mother Agnes Blair married Isaac Hutchison in 1850. He was actually born John McDonald, with the father in 1848 named on the birth cert as John McDonald, and acknowledging the baby as his 'natural son.
Who was John McDonald snr ?

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Lanarkshire / Re: Kirkhill burial ground - Cambusnethan parish
« on: Thursday 03 September 20 09:33 BST (UK)  »
   Back to Mary Nicol / Bell / Beattie - What I reckon happened was that her husband Thomas Beattie died in 1879, Mary crossed the Atlantic in May 1880, arriving on SS Ethiopia on 11th May in time to be reunited with one of her Beattie sons in time to be censused with him in June 1880. She eventually died in 1900 in La Salle, Illinois. The best help that I had was from the married name of her daughter Margaret. Margaret married Thomas McDill in Scotland, crossed the Atlantic as 'Middle' and appeared in US as 'Medill', and this family name has been used in US since then in that branch.

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