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I was totally mistaken - Sarah, Aaron’s wife was buried in Selborne in 1829 - so he was a widower during the Swing riots.

Although, of course, with 9 children to care for it might not be surprising if he’d remarried quite quickly as often seen.

So whilst I’m wrong about the dates again there’s a large number of children whose fates we didn’t hear about. Although James, the key ancestor for Lesley Manville, evidently survived! Probably her cousin who we saw has the research on this.

I may be wrong but I thought Aaron’s wife died in the early 1840’s as my immediate thought on hearing that was to the 1841 census, which wasn’t mentioned.

And given her youngest child was 8 months old at her death (if I heard right) then obviously there was another story to be told about what she did after her husband and brother-in-law’s transportation.

Well that’s Family History, isn’t it - many many threads to follow!!

Maybe make contact with this researcher?

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Baldwin-5391

Excellent! Thank you!

Minniehaha.

Yes, it's all unfolding now.  Thank you for the signposting, really helpful.

My connection is via the Clifton side (Reuben's wife was my 1st cousin 4x removed, Eleanor/Ellen Clifton), so I've not investigated a Stanley Baldwin relationship.

Given Reuben seems to have been born in Ightham, Kent (near Seal and Sevenoaks) from a family of Agricultural Labourers, I would think a connection with Stanley Baldwin was unlikely.

But who knows, back in the mists of time.......

My Miller/Clifton family were right at the other end of NZ, so to speak, in Invercargill, but a snippet of newspaper report from them quotes how respectfully they were treated in NZ (as opposed to being Ag Labs in Kent in the late 19th century dealing with the English gentry presumably), so I am very sympathetic with people ensuring they weren't going to be 'looked down on' as they'd previously been, by asserting a connection with an important politician.

Reuben was Kipps' father. 

Other siblings were Rosa who married I believe Thomas Carman, Ellen who married I believe James Johnston, Ada who married William Frederick Frampton, and Kate who married William Buckland.

I was wanting to check the marriages, as they come from other Ancestry trees, and I would like to have other confirmation - irritatingly the sources are simply to New Zealand as a location, with no other geographical detail. 

Still to follow through on electoral rolls for them to see if they're in the same region.


Just got the free subscription to the newspapers and enjoying Kipps' adventures!  He seems to have been a bit of a one.