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Lancashire / Has anyone seen this photograph
« on: Wednesday 22 June 16 12:26 BST (UK)  »
This photograph was taken I think about 1897.  It is of Members of a Bowls Club in Rochdale.  I found the photograph amongst some old possessions of my late father, who said that his father, John Thomas Taylor, my Grandfather, was on the photograph, but I don’t know who it is.

Has anyone got a copy of the photograph and knows who anyone might be?  Also is anyone able to identify the Bowls Club, my Grandfather lived on Whitworth Road.

I have dated the photograph around 1897, based on other information I have.  Is this period correct, or should it be earlier or later?

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Lancashire / Re: Irish migration to Lancashire
« on: Wednesday 08 June 16 20:22 BST (UK)  »
Census records will only give you those people born in Ireland, not people of Irish descent.

Two of my Great-Grandparents were born in Ireland, all of their children were born in England.

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Lancashire / Re: Irish migration to Lancashire
« on: Friday 27 May 16 06:36 BST (UK)  »
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If not that, just any info people have on Lancashire towns or cities that a lot of Irish went to.

John Bright of Rochdale brought over Irish immigrants to staff his mills.  They settled in the Wardleworth area of Rochdale, which quickly became the Irish Quarter.

Bright provided houses for his Irish workers, but the standard of housing was so poor that by 1860 “Mount Pleasant”, which he had built, had become one of the worst slums in Rochdale.  It was here in 1877 that John McKenna “clogged” his wife to death.

“Clogging” was a Lancashire “sport” in which two opponents, stripped to the waist, and wearing clogs, would try to kick each other unconscious.  The one who remained conscious longest, was the winner.

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Ireland / Re: Royal Irish Constabulary
« on: Thursday 28 April 16 07:07 BST (UK)  »
The Royal Irish Constabulary existed from 1816 to 1922.  The National Archives hold service records for all Officers and Men.  This includes details such as name, age, height, religion, native county, native county of wife, date of appointment, date of retirement and counties in which he served, etc.  “The Royal Irish Constabulary: a Complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men 1816-1822” by Jim Herlihy, gives each man’s Service Number.

Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the book, but maybe some kind RootsChator has, and can help.

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The Common Room / Re: Free Online Genealogy Course with FutureLearn (Week 5)
« on: Thursday 14 April 16 13:44 BST (UK)  »
Ruskie, the reason why there are so many positive comments about the course is because anything that is not liked is moderated out.

I posted a comment regarding week 4, within half-an-hour it had disappeared.

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a-l, yes I also thought Yeadon might be a possibility.  But Yeadon was in the Otley Registration District in 1847, whereas Elland was in the Halifax Registration District.  That is why I propose to go through the GRO Birth Index in order to confirm whether the birth was registered somewhere else other than Elland.

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Thank you both for your help.

Rosie, I think you have identified where Henry Crossley’s Grandfather was.  In 1861 Mary Spencer was living with Henry Wood.  In the 1881 census Mary Spencer is identified as being the 58-year-old Aunt of Henry Crossley, who was living with him at 45 Jackson Street in Castleton.

Giggsy, I think that your assumption could be more than a “maybe”.  Henry Crossley may well have been visiting John Raymont’s home on the night of the census.  Living at John's home was Hannah Spencer, his 70-year-old Mother-in-Law.  Hannah was possibly related to Mary Spencer who was Henry Crossley’s Aunt, living with Henry Crossley’s Grandfather in 1861, (see above).

I have just one reservation.  In the 1851, 1871 and 1881 census, Henry Crossley is recorded as being born in Elland Yorkshire.  Yet in the 1861 census, it says he was born in Yeldon, Yorkshire.  There is no Yeldon in Yorkshire.  By going through the GRO Birth Index it is hoped to confirm Henry’s birthplace.

Thank you both again.

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I have lost Henry Crossley from the 1861 Census for Castleton, Rochdale.  Henry was born in 1847 in Elland, in Yorkshire and in 1851 was living with his Grandparents, Henry and Sarah Wood at 51 Oldham Road in what was then Castleton, Rochdale.

In 1868, still living on Oldham Road, Henry Crossley got married.  In 1871 Henry was living with his wife, Eliza and their 1 year old son William, at 22 Back Oldham Road.

Because of where Henry was living in 1851, 1868 and 1871, I feel sure he must have been living in the Oldham Road area of Rochdale in 1861.  But I cannot find him.  Neither can I find the whereabouts of his Grandparents, Henry and Sarah Wood.  Can anybody help.

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Family History Beginners Board / Dearnley Workhouse in Rochdale
« on: Thursday 07 April 16 04:30 BST (UK)  »
A number of ancestors of mine were inmates of Dearnley Workhouse in Rochdale in between 1890 and 1915.

I am experiencing extreme difficulty in locating records regarding the Workhouse for this period.

Does anyone know if any documentation exists covering these years, and if so where this might be.

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