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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Upcoming changes to tools at AncestryDNA
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 14:36 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Biggles50 on Saturday 02 March 24 14:18 GMT (UK)
Quote from: melba_schmelba on Saturday 02 March 24 14:06 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Biggles50 on Saturday 02 March 24 08:01 GMT (UK)
Very welcome changes.

I did note that an extra subscription will be required, but that is not unexpected.

Still the single best improvement that Ancestry could make is for the DNA Match name to be their Full Birth Name and not one like “sandij145” which coupled with no tree has very little value other than bulking up shared match list
It is up to people who do the test if they want to share that, that is why the option to only use a username is available.

It is a wrong option

If all they want is their Ethnicity, that is fine.

What Ancestry should have is a check box to share their DNA, defaults to Not Share.

If they choose to share then their true Birth Name should be displayed.

Why do I want to see thousands of DNA matches that are unrecognisable?

They are just clogging up my Match list.
A person can choose an anonymous username but still have a private tree which is linked and will link common ancestors, or just a tree with their own name and any living forebears blanked as usual.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Upcoming changes to tools at AncestryDNA
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 14:06 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Biggles50 on Saturday 02 March 24 08:01 GMT (UK)
Very welcome changes.

I did note that an extra subscription will be required, but that is not unexpected.

Still the single best improvement that Ancestry could make is for the DNA Match name to be their Full Birth Name and not one like “sandij145” which coupled with no tree has very little value other than bulking up shared match list
It is up to people who do the test if they want to share that, that is why the option to only use a username is available.

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The Common Room / Re: Found Illegitimate births including father's names - Lambeth
« on: Saturday 02 March 24 12:29 GMT (UK)  »
The General Lying in Hospital's registers go some way back, including birth dates I think before 1837. It would list the person's home parish, and even give sponsors' names who paid for the mother & child's care. So it is a bit different to your average church register. Actually many if not most birth fathers of illegitimate children were traced, since they became burdens on parishes or poor law districts, but the details are not usually in baptismal registers or birth certificates, but you find them in bastardy returns or bonds, parish vestry minutes or in the quarter sessions.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Uploading Raw DNA to Another Site
« on: Friday 01 March 24 18:23 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Biggles50 on Friday 01 March 24 17:00 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Gadget on Friday 01 March 24 16:15 GMT (UK)
Quote from: Biggles50 on Friday 01 March 24 15:44 GMT (UK)
Personally I would not do it, you have to prove that you have legal right to upload someones elses DNA.

It is not a Rocket Science task and at best you could install Team Viewer and help him through the process

I don't think that is quite correct. I have uploaded relatives and friends data to My Heritage without any problem. They are uploaded and can be assigned to you or under their name*.

Gadget

*Add - one can just give a unique name to each different DNA file

No, their DNA data is not your data to do with as you want.

To upload A N Others data under assumed names etc is breaking Data Protection laws throughout the World.
If the person consents to it in some sort of paper or electronic written form I think it is fine.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Uploading Raw DNA to Another Site
« on: Friday 01 March 24 15:09 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Genie24 on Friday 01 March 24 15:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you. We did think of this and he did forward the email but not before clicking on the download first therefore initiating the download to his own files. We are going to try again soon.

Many thanks for your response.
I think you can request it again (within reason, or it might get suspicious and block the download).

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Uploading Raw DNA to Another Site
« on: Friday 01 March 24 14:59 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Genie24 on Friday 01 March 24 10:00 GMT (UK)
I manage my cousin's DNA results. He is keen to upload to another site to increase the chances of new matches. He wants me to do it but I am unable to download the raw DNA as the download instructions are apparently being sent to him. This means that it will be downloaded into his files and not mine. Therefore, I will be unable to do the upload to the chosen site. Any ideas how to get around this.
Yes, he can forward the email to you :).

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The Common Room / Re: Social history of Cornish fishermen migrating to the US in 1900
« on: Saturday 24 February 24 12:41 GMT (UK)  »
Not specifically about fishermen, but these links and recently updated book should be of interest

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Cornwall_Emigration_and_Immigration
https://cornwall.uk/the-cornish-diaspora/
https://www.cornwallforever.co.uk/history/1815-1920-the-great-emigration

The Cornish Overseas - A History of Cornwall's 'Great Emigration' By Philip Payton, 3rd updated and expanded edition, 2020, University of Exeter Press (very expensive to buy, so library seems best bet!)

https://www.exeterpress.co.uk/products/the-cornish-overseas-1?variant=41289008939196

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The Common Room / Tip on searching Ancestry wills category + Dorset Wills not included
« on: Monday 19 February 24 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
Unlike the post 1858 civil wills, and the Prerogative Court of Canterbury wills pre 1858, many of the smaller regional will court collections on Ancestry do not listed approximate death dates guessed from the probate date (obviously in a few cases there can be quite a gap i.e. if the executor(s) did not administer the estate in their lifetime(s)). So if you search by death date through the main wills search page, you will not find any results for many of these smaller courts. So you should always search by the 'Any Event' date in the case of wills.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/categories/clp_wills/?searchOrigin=navigation_header
  There also seems to be another issue, in that some will collections may not even turn up in the wills category search i.e. Dorset Wills is one I have found

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2119/

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The Common Room / Re: Marriage licences, why they were obtained, and their cost
« on: Thursday 15 February 24 21:24 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Jon_ni on Thursday 15 February 24 13:37 GMT (UK)
You will find a summary of Licenses etc in the introductory pages of Report of the Royal Commission on the Laws of Marriage, 1868.The Registrar General's Annual or decennial reports also tabulated the numbers of the various forms at times, they are online on internet archive, google etc. Below is clipping I saved at one stage.

The Church of England's page gives contemporary information description on Licences vs Banns if scroll down to the sections https://www.churchofengland.org/life-events/your-church-wedding/just-engaged

A Licence or Certificate was a pre-requirement for marriage in certain Non-Conformist places of Worship eg where the attendance of a Registrar was required.
Thanks very much for this link jon :). I wonder if the slow increase in use of banns was due to the increased popularity of the high church i.e. Oxford movement as the etiquette book indicated?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Movement

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