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The Common Room / Re: How did parish removal orders, settlement examinations work?
« on: Thursday 16 January 25 15:44 GMT (UK)  »
Anecdote!
My most beloved family were sent by waggon in 1840 >:(
Thanks Jon, it must have been a distressing process, especially for people who may have been ill or elderly or with young children. I suppose the waggon was driven by someone so they were in effect directly escorted, and in addition the parish official also went in your case in more comfortable transport :o! Some significant expense must have been involved for parishes to do this on a regular basis. I wonder if people were ever allowed to find they own way back to their place of settlement, or there was always some sort of transport involved.

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The Common Room / Re: How did parish removal orders, settlement examinations work?
« on: Thursday 16 January 25 13:28 GMT (UK)  »
Does this article help?
https://www.genguide.co.uk/source/settlement-certificates-examinations-and-removal-orders-parish-poor-law/
Thanks K, this page is very informative thanks, I have seen it before. I just wondered whether anyone had any more detailed information or anecdotes on the actual process of removal. It does say in that article that people were sometimes forcibly removed - how did that work? Did someone have to be paid to escort a person, or a whole family perhaps to another end of the country or even somewhere outside England entirely? Such a process would seem very costly for a parish if it had to be done regularly.

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The Common Room / How did parish removal orders, settlement examinations work?
« on: Thursday 16 January 25 12:44 GMT (UK)  »
I have been looking through several parish's removal orders (both to and from the parish) and also settlement examinations, which often provide quite fascinating information about a person's origins, early life, or type of work they had and at what age and time. It also gives a very good idea of how people moved around the local area, and around the country (and even wider British territories). When people became destitute, perhaps through illness and becoming unable to work, they became chargeable to the parish in where they resided. That parish would then enquire as to whether that person had a legal settlement in the parish and so was eligible for parish relief. If they had served one year as a servant, or served an apprenticeship, the parish in which that occurred would be their legal place of settlement, rather than their parish of birth.
   What I am really unclear about is how the process of removal was handled. Would the person, and their family if they had any, be escorted to their legally agreed place of settlement? If they were not, what was to stop them becoming vagrants and moving parish to parish as they liked? What about cases where people's legal place of settlement was agreed to be in Wales, Scotland, Ireland, or some other British territory, such as America, Australia, India etc? Or the other end of England say from Hampshire to Durham? Surely it was not practical to expect the people to return to there? So in such cases, how was it handled?

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry Pro Tools Virtual Event
« on: Thursday 02 January 25 16:03 GMT (UK)  »
I got an email today from Anc promoting a series of virtual training events. One of them was "How to use Pro Tools" by Crista Cowan on 28th January.
I don't seem able to register for it. I get a No Entry icon when I hover over the Register button despite UK being one of the countries listed in the availability list.
Has anyone successfully registered? I can't see what I am doing wrong.
You get taken to Zoom. You have to sign in or sign up (free) for a Zoom account to register. I think the Pro Tools event is now on the 22nd rather than the 28th

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Well I've managed to do it often enough!
https://col-burialregisters.uk/archive
Yes it has been online for some time in a browsable format, it is not in any way indexed by name though, which is what TheGenealogist is now providing.

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For anc to know someone's ethnicity, that person must have taken a DNA test, they just don't match with you.

Jane :-)
Yes, but as gf indicated, previously you didn't see any DNA related data for a profile unless you or an account you manage match them, it seems like this might have changed, unless it was a bug.

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Sometimes when researching the lines of matches I click on profiles for people who have a certain name in their tree.  Sometimes even though they don't show as a DNA match, at the bottom of the profile page it will show the ancestral regions, in the same way it does for DNA matches

Does anyone know why this is?  Is it because the person is a 6cM match but doesn't meet the 8CM limit to show up in matches?
Good question! I am not sure I have noticed this. But I do know that 6-7cM matches are in some way still active, as they still get updated as common ancestor links for those that have saved them.

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