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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Tuesday 22 November 22 23:46 GMT (UK)  »
The image itself is of a page headed Register of burials in the West of London and Westminster cemetery, Earl's Court. Old Brompton

Fairly sure that's Brompton Cemetery
Yes, it is. Thank you for your help.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Tuesday 22 November 22 21:01 GMT (UK)  »
There's a burial for the 1868 death in Brompton Cemetery. Date 1 February. Place of death Charing Cross  Hospital.  Parish removed from - st Clement Dane. Private grave

May I ask where you found this? I couldn't find John or Sarah on Brompton Cemetery's own site for burials.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Tuesday 22 November 22 01:33 GMT (UK)  »
That's very interesting, thank you.

Charing Cross Hospital was still in the Strand in 1868 (it moved to Hammersmith in 1973), so was local to the areas where John lived. St Clement Dane was nearby, so this could be a match. Brompton Cemetery seems an unusual choice for burial as it is quite far away.  Was Sarah buried there too by any chance?

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Monday 21 November 22 17:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much. That all seems to fit well.

I have found a possible death for John Fryer (Junior) in 1868:
GRO Reference: 1868  M Quarter in ST MARTIN IN THE FIELDS  Volume 01A  Page 295
The age at death given is 53, which is correct if we accept the censuses that say he was born in 1815 (still haven't found his baptism), but is the place of death, St Martin in the Fields, reasonable?

I have also found  a possible death for John's wife, Sarah FRYER (nee Harper) in 1872:
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in STRAND Volume 01B Page 340.
It gives her age at death as 52. She was baptised in Dec 1818, so she was actually 53. If this is correct, then she was still alive in 1861 when John was apparently living with Mary Fryer. I have been unable to find a death for Mary Fryer.





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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Saturday 19 November 22 23:28 GMT (UK)  »
I found a baptism on FS for John Fryer with parents Ann and Henry Fryer in Jan 1780 in St Botolph without Aldersgate, which seems to fit. Could anyone look this up to see further details please?

The marriage to Catherine Ferriday also looks a strong possibility since Christ Church Greyfriars was in Aldersgate ward. Are there any further details on this marriage?






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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Friday 18 November 22 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
Could Catherine Sarah be named after her two grandmother's?

Yes, I wondered that but I think Catherine might be too young to be John Jr's mother.

I  tried to find their marriage but without success.

What does "F. S N"after Mary's name mean?

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Thursday 17 November 22 17:46 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone for your help. 

In 1851 their granddaughter Sarah Fryers age 7 born London Bishopsgate is with them
William 56 born  Stradsett,Sarah 56 Bath and Henry 23 Stow Norfolk.

I suspect that granddaughter Sarah is actually Catherine Sarah, daughter of John Fryer and Sarah Harper, as I can't find any record pertaining to Sarah's birth. However, Catherine Sarah is in Cripplegate with her parents on 1951 census and age 9 (correctly). Could anyone see the images and check whether Sarah's age has been mistranscribed as 7 please?

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Wednesday 16 November 22 13:08 GMT (UK)  »

If you’ve seen that Lambeth marriage record (bride was Sarah Harper) you will know that his father was listed as John Fryer, boot maker. Both bride and groom were said to be living in East St at the time of the marriage. The 1841 census date was 6 June, so only a week or so before the marriage.

Was the father definitely listed as a boot maker? In the transcription I saw (a few years ago) his occupation was a mason.
I can't find an 1841 census with John and Sarah in East Street. The nearest possibility (very loose though!) I have seen is an 1841 census listing a John Fryer age 25 (so born 1816 - 1820) in New Broad Steet, St Botolph Without Bishopsgate in the household of Micholls family, so presumably a servant. I can't find Sarah Harper in 1841 census or the father John Fryar. It would be nice to find them all listed together in East Street!
Is this possibly John Fryer in 1861 with a different wife. Occupation the same as 1851 census. When his daughter Catherine married in 1860 to Charles Hills, John is not recorded as deceased.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-3GXQ
It's  possible, but the census lists his birthplace as Lindsey, Middlesex. Is this near Strand?
there is a John Fryer, waiter, 44, born London, in the 1861 census in Doby Court, St Olave Silver Street, with much younger wife Mary.  He is possibly the John Fryer, waiter, who  was awarded a medal by the Royal Humane Society in August 1861 for saving the life of Harmond Clayton.
For John to have remarried by 1861, Sarah would have to have died between 1851 and 1861. I can't find any suitable death for her on the GRO. Are there any other details on the life saving incident?

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Strand/Lambeth look up requests
« on: Tuesday 15 November 22 23:28 GMT (UK)  »
Where do you get the Jr bit from?
From his marriage on 15 June 1841

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