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Found a bit more on child John Parker Smale.


In 1841 he was in Brushford With Thomas Pope and Grace Handcock, his grandparents

In 1871 he was in Medina,Ohio and was naturalized 9 Sep 1871.  His sister Mary Ann lived in Medina with spouse Richard Gibbings.  John Parker Smale is a house painter

A voter registration 20 Sep 1890 places him in Pasadena and reports the naturalization in Medina. Sister Mary Ann was in Pasadena by that point.

So far nothing  after the voter registration.  Some researchers have death in 1891 but no documentation

Looking for children of

Ann Pope

BIRTH abt 1811 Coldridge, Devon, U.K  Parents Thomas Pope and Grace Handcock

DEATH 02 AUG 1879  4 Phene St, Chelsea, London, England

John Smale

BIRTH Abt. 1803  Littlehampton, Devon, England

DEATH 21 JAN 1879  4 Phene St, Chelsea, London, England Parents believed to be John Smale and Francis Unknown. Some suggest wife was Ann and there is a birth 16 Jan 1805  and baptism 17 Feb 1805 recorded in Exeter in England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936

They married 27 Dec 1832 Exeter All Hallows Goldsmith St Devon

A number of researchers had pointed to several children but the birth dates for one is prior to marriage and documents are not provided by others.  The suggested children are


John Parker Smale  1830–1891  Birth seems wrong

Betsey Smale 1833–  Seems to fit based on 1841 Census

John Penwarden Smale 1834–1897  Further research finds a John Smale and spouse Penwarden which would make sense and eliminate this child

William Smale 1835–1898 Seems to fit from 1841 Census  Potential baptism 11 Jan 1835

James Smale 1836–1897 Possible from 1851 Census  Birth suggested as 20 Sep 1836

Mary Ann Smale 1838–1912 Birth suggested as 10 Jul 1838 and this child fits my tree as I have images of her in personal photos and another researcher has same image both with name written on back

Lucy Smale 1840– Seems to fit from 1841 Census

Fanny Smale 1841–1905  Married a mariner Nicholas Moalle in China according to some .

Lots of "hints" but documents at my end are lacking.

I have more unconfirmed details on marriages for some of above but simply hypothetical for the most part.

I am trying to confirm parents of Janet Urquhart  on attached record.

I believe this is Janet Munro that married William Urquhart 13 Nov 1829 Fearn, Ross-shire, Scotland

The name of her father does not seem to be Munro on document.  Was this a middle name or something else.

Mother named appears to be Helen McKenzie

I have a birth or baptism for a Robert Turner.  I believe he is my 5th great grandfather.

It looks like his father was William but the remainder is a challenge to read.


Hopeful someone can read this snip on the document.

Many thanks