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Have found William Swell Hawes death in Jan-Mar 1869 in West Ham, Essex [E&W deaths 1837-2007 on Find My Past, vol 4a, page 10]

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It may be that William Swell Hawes & Margaret died in childbirth of in some epidemic [cholera was a big problem in the 1800's in London]

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Carole, As you say William Swell Hawes birth cert may well be the answer, & would definitely narrow down the period for Margaret's death, again many thanks, Michael

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On the E&W Civil Reg Birth Index 1837-1915 for 1862 [Jul-Sep] George is there & Georgiana is 2 lines below both under Depwade, Norfolk [vol 4b, page 17]

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I cannot find any info on George [b 1862] in 1881 & 1891 English Censuses or of his death between 1871 & 1875, but I agree with your thoughts about why George Herbert was named thus

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I cannot find where Georgiana was in 1871, but she was staying with her uncle Leonard Sivell [& wife] in Bethnal Green in 1881 Census [piece 412, folio 103, page 19]

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Hi again, Edgar's England, Select Births & Christenings, 1538-1975 entry FHL film no. 2299613 showed parents were George & Margaret Hawes and Christening was on 25 Apr 1865 at Wymondham, Norfolk. Thanks again, Michael

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Hi Carole, Thanks for your thoughts in your posts. Swell is commonly [I think] transcribed when it is actually Sivell. The other children of George & Margaret are named George & Georgiana [twins] born 12 June 1862. It may well be that you are right, although none of their 1st three children have a family middle name, but this son may be the one who breaks that prior pattern. George & Sarah Anne had a child called George Herbert Hawes born 7 Dec 1875 in Shoreditch. Do you know of any info that might prove this is the 4th child of George & Margaret, or should I order his birth cert from GRO? Many thanks for this help, kind regards, Michael

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I cannot find any details of this member of my direct pedigree of her death [or remarriage]. She was born in Attleborough, Norfolk in 1840. She married George Hawes in Tibenham on 17 Sep 1861 & had her third known child [Edgar Francis] on 17 Mar 1865 in Tibenham. George Hawes married Sarah Anne Sivell/Civil/Sivel [probably Margaret's sister] on 23 Feb 1870 in South Hackney, Middlesex. George & Sarah Anne then lived in Shoreditch & later on in Hackney. Between 17 Mar 1865 & 23 Feb 1870 Margaret most probably died [or unlikely remarried] & I cannot find any records relating either of these possibilities - if anyone is able to HELP ME I would be very, very grateful!

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