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Hi, I have just stumbled across this post whilst doing my husband's family history.  We have been stuck on his great, great, grandmother, Ada Jane Gray.

On her Qld marriage certificate in 1909 (she was age 22), we know that shew as born in about 1887 in Dubbo, NSW and it states her parents were John William Gray (Labourer) and Johanna Stanley.  But we have been unable to find any birth details for her (brn about 1887).

I am wondering if this is the same Gray family?  She was a domestic servant on a station in Longreach and married a roustabout there (a day after their son was born).

The older members of my husband's family never spoke about this lady (they were divorced in 1929 and their two children placed in an orphanage early on), but it was rumoured that she was of aboriginal descent.  My father-in-law always believed that she was Aboriginal but never asked his father so doesn't know.

Your earlier notes say that the Gray family you are talking about were of Aboriginal descent, that is why I am wondering if this is the same family. 

I know this is an old post, but hopefully someone here will read it and may have some answers for me.
Thanks
Deb

Aha the marriage 1854
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGF4-FGF

Thank you so much.  This is fantastic.  All of this information is so wonderful.  All these years we thought the name of the wife was Sarah Hadnety (obviously a spelling or pronounciation mistake on the Australian birth certificate).

I will go through all of this info today.  Its all so interesting.

Deb

Wow,this is getting very confusing for the Australian side of things.  Have found some more info for the Irish side but still not getting a David Mackey (or Mackay) brn abt 1862.  Some of the info below is from other family members and some is from certificates.

I've put the Australian side on a bit of timeline below - I don't know how to work this one out.  Any ideas from anyone would be greatfully appreciated:



James Mackey – Baptised 9/1/1859, died 1943
David Mackey brn abt 1862, institutionalised December 1887, Died 1938 (diff spelling)
Selina Edwards died 29/1/1950

Came out on ship “Waroonga” arrived Brisbane 5/6/1883 (I can only find James n/a on this ship and no David)

James Mackey married Selina Edwards 7/1/1884 Brisbane

David Mackay & Selina Edwards children
Child Selina 7/1/1885
Child Ellen 16/5/1886
Child David  5th March 1888, Churchill Ipswich (name was David Mackey-Czerney on his marriage cert in 1911)

David Mackey institutionalised December 1887

James Mackey married Winifred O’Neil 1885 (died 1889)
Child – James Mackey 1886
Child - Michael Mackey 1888

Selina Edwards married Francis Joseph Czerney 1911
Child Lily 1891
Child Thomas born 1894
Child Violet born 1897
Child Mabel born 1898
Child Francis born 1900
Child Arthur born 1903
Child Joseph born 1906

You have a birth, marriage and death certificate. Can you please list all the information on each certificate.

 At Toowong Cemetery   same plot
MACKEY James                  buried 20 Dec 1943 87yrs
MACKEY Winifred  O'Neil     buried 24 Mar 1889 

BDM QLD death
1889 / C3918 MACKEY Winifred  parents O'NEIL Michael / DADY Mary

1943 / B64480 MACKEY James parents William MACKEY /  Sarah

Who is Winifred?

Where you see the name HEDNETY ...are you looking at a handwritten image, or a transcription?

Hi Wivenhoe,

The James Mackey at Toowong cemetery is the James Mackey we thought was in our family line, as the parents names are correct, but the age just doesn't match up. 

I don't know who Winifred is, perhaps a second wife as Selina (his first wife) appears to have remarried and had children to another partner.

I have attached the certificates I have. Another member of our family had previously done this research and this was the best that they could get for the Australian side. 

That is why I am trying to start at the other end and trace the ancestors from Ireland for some other clues.

I can't seem to find any David Mackey (brother of James) and am currently thinking that perhaps James went by the name of David?

Hello

I am trying to trace the Irish section of my husband's family tree but only have the information from a birth certificate, death certificate and a marriage certificate in Australia and what other relatives have found out.

The story so far:  James (born abt. 1860) and David (born abt. 1862) in Dundrum, Tipperary Ireland, came to Australia on the "Waroonga" on 5th June 1883 - arriving Brisbane, Queensland.

Their parents were William Mackey and Sarah Hednety.

Here's where it gets a bit strange and nobody here knows why - James married Selina Harriet Edwards in 1884 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia (according to official marriage certificate), but a son of Selina born in 1888 was named David and the father's name on that birth certificate was David Mackey (born abt. 1862).

I have a death certificate for James Mackey but he didn't die until 1943 in Queensland, Australia.

Selina Mackey remarried in 1912 to Francis Czerney but had several children to him prior to marriage between 1891 and 1906.

Anyway, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction to find the Irish ancestors of James and David. 

Not sure if the spelling is correct, also cannot find what county I should be looking in as the info here states Dundrum, Tipperary, Ireland.

I have looked over a few church records in that area, but have had no luck so far.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks 
Deb Lockyer