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World War One / Re: World War II - Henry Thomas Lockyer
« on: Sunday 07 June 20 06:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi, thanks, Henry Thomas Lockyer was born abt. 1882 in England, but was in Australia from a very early age.  I have a copy of his son's service record and a copy of this two brother's enlistment record, but can't find anything on him.

Deb

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World War One / World War I - Henry Thomas Lockyer.
« on: Sunday 07 June 20 05:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I have the attached picture which I have been told was Henry Thomas Lockyer, but I don't believe it is.  I have been unable to find any service records for him (he was born in 1882) but have found two of his brother's records - Albert Edward Lockyer and Francis George Lockyer, both from WWI.
Also his son's Henry Gordon Lawson Lockyer from WWII.  I believe this might be a photo of one of his brother's and his sister.

Just a few questions please; 

Is this an Australian WWI uniform?
Do the archives have photos of servicemen so I could match up who this is?
Can anyone find any Australian war record of Henry Thomas Lockyer?

Thanks in advance. :)

Deb


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Australia / Johanna Stanley - John William Gray - Aboriginal NSW?
« on: Sunday 31 May 20 08:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I think I've hit the end of my family journey.  I have been unsuccessful in finding more on the one family line that I wanted to find out about.

I have been trying to find Ada Jane Gray's (b 1887 Dubbo, d. 1945 Innisfail) parents lines.  I have found quite a few brothers and sisters of Ada as well as her marriages and other children and partners, but nothing on her parents.  I have a death certificate for Johanna Stanley which states she was born "Near Gray River, New Zealand", but we assume that may be another fib as I cannot find anything for her in NZ.

Johanna Stanley b. abt 1860, died 24 Jun 1898 Qld, parents John Stanley and Mary Raymond
and
John William Gray, m. 1876 wellington, nsw (no proof of this though, just what was written on a death certificate.

We assume that both were of Aboriginal descent as we have found a brother and a niece of Ada Jane Gray who were "Native" and "uncontrollable Aboriginal".  It also appears that Ada (although stating born in Dubbo in her first marriage) has stated in her later second marriage that she was from "Mexico".

I believe that John Gray (Ada's father) was perhaps living at Apsley Mission in NSW (Black's camp) as when he buried a son in Dubbo in 1886, the witness to that burial was a person who is named at that camp - Charles Campbell.  There was also a John Stanley at that camp at one stage.

I have looked through the AITSIS data and cannot find anything either.

Does anyone have any idea on where else I can search for this difficult line?

Thanks
Deb

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: German or Polish marriage
« on: Thursday 28 May 20 09:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your help. :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / German or Polish marriage
« on: Wednesday 27 May 20 09:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I know this is the marriage of Daniel Bogs and Henryka/Henrietta Gerth, my great,great grandparents, but just wanting to find out if anyone can decipher the names of the parents of each

I believe part could be born (geb) spiekermann for the mother of Gerth, but I can't get the rest of the names.

The record below does not appear to be very correct.

Thanks in advance. :) :)

Name:    Daniel Bogs
Gender:    männlich (Male)
Marriage Age:    33
Event Type:    Heirat (Marriage)
Birth Date:    abt 1838
Marriage Date:    16 Mai 1871 (16 May 1871)
Marriage Place:    Gr Neudorf, Deutschland (Germany)
Father:    Jakob Bogs
Mother:    Anna Bogs
Spouse:    Daniel Brgs
Parish as it Appears:    Gross-Neudorf
Page Number:    73
Author:    Evangelische Kirche Gro¤ Neudorf (Kr. Bromberg)
City or District:    Bydgoszcz u Nowawies Wielka


Name:    Daniel Brgs
[Daniel Bogs]
Gender:    weiblich (Female)
Marriage Age:    20
Event Type:    Heirat (Marriage)
Birth Date:    abt 1851
Marriage Date:    16 Mai 1871 (16 May 1871)
Marriage Place:    Gr Neudorf, Deutschland (Germany)
Father:    Michael Brgs
Mother:    Friederike Brgs
Spouse:    Daniel Bogs
Parish as it Appears:    Gross-Neudorf
Page Number:    73
Author:    Evangelische Kirche Gro¤ Neudorf (Kr. Bromberg)
City or District:    Bydgoszcz u Nowawies Wielka
FHL Film Number:    245476




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Hi
Trying to trace my grandfather's tree from Russia.  I believe the spelling of his name has probably changed from how it was spelt in Russian, he was a displaced person after the war.

He came from a town near the White Sea and the finish border called Archangels (arkangelsk), his father was a hunter for furs and he was one of five brothers, his grandparents also lived in the village.  He was drafted at 18 and then captured and taken prisoner.  His mother was pregnant when he was drafted.  he was born 30th December 1922.

I have never been able to find anything on him or his family, he never contacted his family after the war for fear of reprisal by the army for him not returning to Russia.

I would love to find some more about his family.

Any help appreciated.

Deb

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Thanks so much everyone, this is starting to piece together now.  i can't believe how much we have found out in just a few days.

I have found eight possible siblings of Ada Jane Gray born in Dubbo NSW (and at Bundaleer Station, Qld).  I also found a death certificate of an infant brother of hers, James, which states "where born and how long in the Australiasian Colonies or States", "Narrau, NSWales, Native". I think this could explain why it has been difficult to get details in the past. 

With Ada deserting Henry, this explains why the 2 boys were put into an orphanage, and then later collected by their Aunties.  I also know that Alfred Easter Lockyer, turned up one day at Gordon Lockyer's house and stayed for a few days to visit, his son was told that he was not his dad's brother, but he remembers that they acted like they were and it was like a big family reunion.  He was born Alfred Easter Gray "illigitimate" and was adopted by Henry Lockyer when they married.  That would be why Ada took him with her.

I will have to try Ada's parent's now - they have been a bit more difficult.

Deb :)

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Ada had another child before she was married, Alfred Easter GRAY/LOCKYER in 1906.  It appears that the man she left her husband for was named Thomas HEALEY, and she took Alfred with her.

Son Francis John Thomas HEALEY died in 1931 aged 10.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/48721476
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/149895853

Francis HEALY
Death date:  27/08/1931
Mother's name:  Ada GRAY
Father/parent's name: Thomas
1931/C/2570

There is mention of the father in the article, but not Ada.  She is still on the electoral roll with Thomas in 1930.

I am not entirely sure that Eric was their son, it looks to be a bit complicated.

Debra  :)

Wow, this is a complicated one indeed! So I need to look into the in between times by the looks of it.  If Ada Gray had a child in 1906 Alfred Easter Gray/Lockyer, it was probably to Henry Thomas Lockyer (who she married in 1909), then perhaps she left him after Eric was born and took Alfred with her as well - as only Leslie and Gordon were with their father and placed in the orphanage and their children (my husband's father) only thought there was the two of them.

If she had left him with the two kids and Thomas Healy and then had another child (who tragically died) there is a gap between that and her re-marrying William Cummings in 1935 (where it appears she has lied about her age (10 years younger) and ethnicity (from Mexico) on that marriage certificate).  Her death extract only states the three boys as her sons - Leslie, Gordon and Eric.

Is she on the electoral roll with Thomas Healy or with Alfred Easter?

:)




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Hi

Trying to trace my husband's great grandmother - Ada Jane Gray.  We have a father for her of John William Gray (labourer) and a mother of Johanna Stanley, but that is all the details that I have.  I can't find a birth certificate nor a death certificate - just a marriage in Qld.

It is believed that there is Aboriginal heritage in this line, but not sure where, but believed that Ada was Aboriginal.  My husband's grandfather had very Aboriginal traits and his father immigrated from London.

The information I have is:
Ada Jane Gray, born in Dubbo around 1887 (22 at age of marriage in 1909)
Married in Qld 1909 (day after son was born) (marriage dissolved 1929 at Rockhampton - 2 children from marriage both in orphanage)
She was a domestic servant
Father of her child was a Labourer (roustabout) at Longreach - Henry (Harry) Thomas Lockyer
Her mother and father were Johanna Stanley and John William Gray (Labourer) according to the marriage extract.

I have found some chats about a Gray family that lived at Obley that has some similar names (maybe a coincidence) and an Aboriginal background.

There was also a Stanley family that lived in an Aborigine camp according to 1903 poll.

Any leads gratefully accepted. :)

Deb

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