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Derbyshire / Re: Sarah Moreland Dealer in Small Arms, Codnor Park, Derbyshire
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I think that would fit better perhaps. I thought dealer in small arms was a bit unusual for a woman of that time.  I wonder if there is any other evidence to prove this?

Many thanks to everyone for getting back so far.

Andy

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Derbyshire / Sarah Moreland Dealer in Small Arms, Codnor Park, Derbyshire
« on: Sunday 10 May 20 15:15 BST (UK)  »
Someone in my village of Codnor Park found a cast iron plate bearing the lettering: “Sarah Moreland dealer in small arms”.  See attachment.

It was found in the back garden of a cottage on Railway Row when he had problems with the drains and his builder had to dig out for new ones.

We have been wondering if its origins were related to our local village history. We have looked on the internet but can find no reference to the details on the plate.

What we have discovered so far from the 1881 census is a Sarah Moreland  living at 5, Railway Row, Codnor Park  near to were the metal plate was found.  No occupation was given.

However, looking at local trade directories from the 1870’s we have discovered a Mrs Sarah Moreland of 5, Railway Row, Codnor Park listed as a shopkeeper. I wonder if she traded in small arms?

Is anyone able to help us to link Sarah to being a “dealer in small arms”?

Any help or information would be really appreciated.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: What happened to the first Enoch Payne post 1843?
« on: Monday 03 June 19 10:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi James,
What an amazing story and completely unexpected and so well written. Thank you so much.  You have got me through a brick wall that I have been trying to get through for the past twenty years now!   I have been trying to find out what happened to young Enoch (born 1843), his father and his mother.  How did he end up with his uncle John Payne in Loughborough in the 1851 Census? After that I have lots of information.
I have a web page on the Paynes, (a little out of date) that you may be interested in:
http://www.andycadman.force9.co.uk/paynes.htm
More up to date is my tribalpages page:
https://andycadman.tribalpages.com/
 You will find out much more information here.
As you will see the son Enoch born 1843 had quite a chequered life.  Sadly, he ended up drowning in a canal in Sheffield.
Once thank you so much, really appreciated. If you would like any of the documents/photographs detailed in my notes just let me know and I would be happy to let you have copies.
I am sure that I will be back in touch again as soon as I have had chance to digest so much fascinating information.
Best wishes,
Andy

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Restoration Help Please of King William Street Ironville
« on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Goldie61,

The picture was taken circa 1910.

You will find out more about the history of Ironville on this page, if you scroll down and click on some of the links.:

http://unicorns.comli.com/Index.htm

You will also find lots of old pictures of ironville on these Facebook pages:

Friends of Ironville & Codnor Park

Alfreton & District Heritage Trust
(Look at the ironville albums on this page)

Jacksdale Area Culture & Heritage JACHs

(JACHS also have a web page with lots of Ironville family history data bases as well as lots of photographs link: https://www.jacksdale.org.uk/jachs-jacksdale-area-culture-heritage/
Click on the genealogy section but there is lots more).

I hope that this helps.

Andy 




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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: What happened to the first Enoch Payne post 1843?
« on: Wednesday 24 April 19 22:33 BST (UK)  »
Could be worth a visit to the Leicestershire Records Office.

Thank you again Mckha489.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: What happened to the first Enoch Payne post 1843?
« on: Wednesday 24 April 19 21:49 BST (UK)  »
The Enoch Payne on trial in Leicester in Jan 1869 was his son.

Thank you for getting back Mabel.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: What happened to the first Enoch Payne post 1843?
« on: Wednesday 24 April 19 21:47 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for looking up mckha489.
It could be a possibility but unfortunately Payne is such a common name, without the
"Enoch" in front there is no certainty.

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: What happened to the first Enoch Payne post 1843?
« on: Wednesday 24 April 19 21:39 BST (UK)  »
Many thank for getting back CaroleW.
I have checked out most of the possible deaths and possible marriages but so far with no success.
I am hoping that the Chartist link may lead somewhere?


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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: What happened to the first Enoch Payne post 1843?
« on: Wednesday 24 April 19 17:40 BST (UK)  »
After all of these years I have found a possible clue to this mystery.  Searching through the Newspaper Archive just recently, I have discovered that he was a Chartist.  In January 1842 I discovered him chairing a large Chartist Meeting in Leicester. In February1843 he was nominated for the Chartist General Council. I wonder if this is a clue to his disappearance. So far I have not found any other evidence. Does anyone have any advice as to where I go from here?

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