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I started my Family research approx. from the year 2000. Partly out of curiosity on my behalf and having a computer in the house to see what I could find out about the Family's past. I was born / raised in the post war years from 1947 onwards.
Every time a conversation was started on our Victorian Ancestors  the conversation did not continue for very long. Brought to an end with " The past is  past -  it's best to be forgotten" was always a reason to quickly bring the conversation to an end. Always thought that it was mainly because of what happened in the War/s, - too many memories that needed to be forgotten.
Words were told to me  " In Time what is past is past, and the past will forever be lost in Time ".This comment always really struck me as of not wanting the War year's being remembered, but today I am not to sure if it may have been related to something that was in with the Victorian Family History.?
With F/H research, I have managed, somehow, to reach back to the 1841 Census/s. This is where I have decided to ease off with my research. I am surprised in that I have managed to get this far back. I have tried to get back further but it has not been showing anything that help's at all that can take me back anymore.
A most surprising fact to appear to me from my research, is that my Ancestors lived in the same street in the 1870's, in a house more or less opposite the house that my Family moved into from the 1940's and that I was brought up in from 1947 onwards. When the family moved in 1940, a Family member was my Great Grandmother who actually lived in the house almost opposite to the one that they lived in the 1870's. My Great Grandmother outlived her only son, my Grandfather, lived into her 90's and died in the house that they had moved into in the 1940's.
Have you come across anything surprisingly similar in your Family History?
Regards JUST J

I'm patiently waiting for the 1921 Census arrival but I don't think it's going to help me as  I have put together about as much information from the records on the specific time period that I am researching in.
I am probably trying in vain looking to find these records.
Starting to accept that these records are no longer in existence due to Fire damage or being destroyed in the Wars.
Past Family info :- There's always been a hold back of information in the Family on my G / Grandfather.
In my growing up years I have memories of talks being started about him but we were never ever told the full story.
We were told of that he spent the middle years of his life in America.
None of the following family of my age on this side Atlantic seem to know and may never ever know of why he went to America in the first place.' The thing is, he left his wife my G/Grandmother and approx 6 children behind here in England, ( 1890's ) he  took his partner and children from both women, which are extra by the way to the six? that he left behind from England and set up home in America.
He and his partner, no marriage record has ever been found in America.?
This information I have been given from his family connections that I have made contact with in America.
He only stays in America until not long after his partner in America has died.
He (again ?) leaves his American Family ??
We find he has then returned to England ( 1933 ) back to his Wife,my G/Grandmother, his Son, my Grandfather, and with some other members of his Sons Family, one who was my Mother. He dies 1938.
The last findings of the amount of children that he may have had is fourteen for both sides of the Atlantic. There are most likely some of his descendants about of my age who possibly only know not much more than of his name and not know of how many other people that they are connected to.
I am short of trying to find information of what was the cause for him to be being in America for as he returned back to his wife by marriage here in England in 1933.
A possible reason for why he chose America is that his brother had already been there since 1871. I have American Census proof of being there from 1871.
I have pursued for sometime in this part of my Ancestors with you R/C' s and with your great help, you have found things that I do not think that I by myself would have found. I well appreciate the help that you have given. I have / am trying other routes which hopefully will produce the information that I am looking for. Something may come from the 1921 Census I just have to hope I can find the next link.
My G/ Grandfather name by the way ALFRED WENTZELL b 1856 Liverpool.
If anyone new who is interested in my G/Grandfathers research please check my previous posts. they  do cover on what I have and R/C have achieved. Thank you for looking at my post.
Best Regards JUST J

Hi,
 In the researching of my F/H, I have hit a Brickwall of a Brickwall? .....but I think  I am at last starting to remove it.? .Am always wanting to question and have doubt's over my finding's.? Not sure of what to believe from what was coming out from my research? There are still things that need to be proven to be correct if they are correct???. There are Family members that do not want to believe of what I have found from my Family's History, which covers the years from the early 1870's upto the 1911 Census. With more research it may even go on further.??
My findings cover at least six of our family's over a 40 year period?
To me the proof of the answer lies within the 1911 Census.
On what I have (seemed?) to have found, further research is needed? and needs to be done well?
After being well researched into I will have to see, possibly get another person to check over on my findings, and that I am correct with my findings??
Curiosity - It has always brought me back to continue and to be doing further research to find anything?
I have kept my research findings on this to one side,and in a separate file.
I have Family that seem to just disbelieve my research results??
The results / findings just go above there head/s. They cannot find the time or  want to take the time to find out about our Family's ancestors.?
They have stronger thoughts of wanting to disbelieve than to believe? If that make's sense??
The majority of us F/H researchers have skeletons in the cupboard and this is one that was certainly aimed for me??
I started my Family Research approximately at the start of the year 2000.
My research covering between the year's of the 1840's to the 1900's.There are still certain area/s?? that are needing to be researched into.
The amount of notes? and references?? that I have. I have quite a few.
The living Family they do not want these name's on a public site??
From the start of my researching I only had my Grandfather's birth certificate to research with and I have managed to follow / progress on. My research some has been successfully done with your help R / C' s.
It is not until the 1911 Census came available that I had the most relevant information that could prove something of/on my finding's, but still some of Family want to disbelieve of what the records's seem to show?. The information given at the the time the records were recorded have been slightly adjusted, altered for the future generations's not to know of the past of the Family's History?.
One person who kept their marriage surname? ... but then changed her Father's surname to it also?,.. and slightly changed his occupation?
Have given one of her children from her first Marriage a Foreign different birthplace that showed up on the following Census.
The person in question even dropped her age by a few years as well on the following Census. Had declared herself a Spinster again and  bigamously remarried?? Would it have been unlawful then in the 1860's/ 1870's to have done this?, that I often keep on wondering over?
To be keeping her married surname is definitely not unlawful? The slight wording change to her Father's occupation, something like Confectioner to a Baker, would not be unlawful? To drop her age a few years which showed up as on the next Census? The bigamous Marriage certificate has her again as a Spinster and her age as it was then quite often then entered down as of being in the one word of ""full"" only. I have researched into the record's a number of time's and I still  always come up the same result? I cannot proceed into public research on the net because I have family objections into doing so?
I keep my research limited for the people that are in this of who do not want the Surname of the Family not to be mentioned?  I have to respect their wishes and to keep the research as private as I can?? This sort of stops me with my research? I am waiting for the Census of 1922 to be released to see if any new findings can  be achieved ??  Or if it is me that has been me going totally in the wrong direction?. Once the 1922 Census is available and I have checked the findings?. I will have to have this part of the Family History investigated by someone who has more professional experience with Family History.
 As I only know, and have found, gained my experiencesince, from when I started my research and with help from the R / C Forum site?

The relation who remarried bigamously, you have to think of just why, and what for?. But did she realise of what the consequences might be? Did she deliberately want to remove her Mother/Father and her younger day's memories from her life altogether?. Did she somehow want to lose all her youthful records before her first Marriage? By doing this she's lost her true birth surname altogether?
There are some family that I have been in contact with and who have asked me not to reveal on the family's name whilst they are still alive? And I have to respect their wishes. At this stage this limits me as I can only research into the the ""Smiths/Jones" personally. As the forum site's are public ?Their name to me is going to be either Smith or a Jones until when ?? we know anymore or may not want to know anymore? ( I'm waiting ? patiently? for the 1922 Census ? )
Happy Hunting, Hope the above is understandable,
Best Regards Just J.


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But I am not a person who has ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
I am the person who is a AMATEUR INTRUDER

Hi,
Thank you firstly for looking at my posting.As always with family research when you have another name in your list you are normally always able to find a few more ??
My latest name(s) of interest are the NEWSOM's, .....twins, birth registration Sept Qtr 1896 Lewisham London, from freebmd. A Charles and Maud Florence. I have info that this set of twins may have some connection to my family??. The only information that I have is that they were separated within their first 10 ??years of their lives?. Charles is in America as from 1899??. The American Family connection and me have very little other than that they were separated at an early age?. Charles becoming an American Citizen with the rest of his forthcoming American Family?. His surname is changed to SAD(D)LER for the rest of his life in America.?
 I / We are researching into what may have happened to his sister MAUD FLORENCE NEWSOM,  ( if both of them are of any connection to our family.??)
 Research with us has only brought up of what is on the Freebmd Sept Qtr 1896 info of what we have? Have been unable to find Marriage Certificate and Death Certificate for MAUD FLORENCE?? and if there were other records that MAUD also went to or stayed in America??We do know that the Father never married the Mother.? The christian name of the Mother was definitely a HARRIET, and the Father's Christian name may / should ?? have been an ALFRED??
Free BMD Ref is CHARLES NEWSOM b 1896 Sept Qtr Lewisham Vol 1d Page.1212       
MAUD FLORENCE NEWSOM b 1896 Sept Qtr Lewisham Vol 1d Page 1205
Thank you again for looking at my post, and many more thanks if your able to help with my research??
Best Regards Just J