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Norfolk / Re: Photo of Oakwood House, Tottenhill.

« on: Thursday 16 June 22 16:52 BST (UK) »

No luck I'm afraid. Despite an 1980s guidebook saying it had Tudor origins it doesn't appear to be listed, nor even mentioned as being of local interest on the Norfolk Heritage Explorer.

There are quite a few hits on British Newspaper Archive, including advertisements for its sale in 1867 and some mentions of people who lived there over the years, incidents on the road nearby etc. I don't currently have a subscription so couldn't guess if any of the articles might have featured photographs.

London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Edward Slipper GAFF - did third of his four wives die? Phoebe KIPPING

« on: Thursday 16 June 22 16:22 BST (UK) »

Edward Slipper Gaff, a butcher, b1873 on an apparently failed family emigration adventure to North America, but had returned to his family's Norfolk roots by the 1881 census. Then he moves to London by 1891.

1st marriage to Edith Corder in 1897. She dies in 1899 (after 2 children)
2nd marriage to Alice Amelia Togwell in 1900. She dies in 1901 (after 1 child)
3rd marriage to Phoebe Julia Kipping in 1904. They're both on the 1911 census (no children)
4th marriage to Caroline Gill in 1919. They don't seem to be on the 1921 census.

Can't find any death details for Phoebe, is there any indication what might have happened to her?

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Theatre of WWII

« on: Thursday 09 June 22 19:26 BST (UK) »

Thanks.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Theatre of WWII

« on: Thursday 09 June 22 16:51 BST (UK) »

My grandfather never talked about his war service, and served until he was badly injured behind enemy lines in 1945. One family member says North Africa, another says France.

Now maybe we have an answer, what does this say, North West

The Common Room / 16 years between children

« on: Wednesday 12 January 22 07:12 GMT (UK) »

In 1891 both parents are 40 with a 17-year old son and a 1 year old son. In 1901 the older son is still living there along with the 11-year old and also an 8 year-old, both listed as sons of the 50-year old couple.

How common is such a gap between children? Would you be suspicious? How suspicious? What are the chances an unmarried woman's children would live with the father's parents? This is in a town in the Scottish Borders.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Census - Relationship to head of family

« on: Tuesday 11 January 22 11:55 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, that must be it as they're all listed as "shoemakers" in 1851. Just didn't expect it in that column. Thought it might say just about say "Soninlaw/cousin"

In 1841 the head's occupation is given as "M Shoe" and the widowers as "J Shoe" so it makes sense.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Census - Relationship to head of family

« on: Tuesday 11 January 22 11:39 GMT (UK) »

Any ideas how this 33 and 55 year-old relate to the head of the household? They have different surnames both from each other and from the family. However they're living with these people on the 1841 and 1851 censuses, so aren't just visiting! I assume they are both widowers. Could be cousins or in-laws but the description looks like "journeyman" which I thought you'd only find in the occupation column.

The Common Room / Re: Were middle names often omitted from death certificates in the 1880s?

« on: Monday 07 December 20 09:36 GMT (UK) »

After thinking about the wording of my post I had a look through some newspapers and just now found that he died in Jersey City, USA in 1886

I guess my point still stands - if no one with a middle name is recorded in the GRO index, is it best to look elsewhere or trawl through the matches for first-name & surname?

The Common Room / Were middle names often omitted from death certificates in the 1880s?

« on: Monday 07 December 20 09:22 GMT (UK) »

I am wondering how common it was for middle names to be omitted from death certificates?

I know that this John Thomas Parker b1842 Lichfield died in England between the 1881 and 1891 cenuses, because his wife is listed as a widow in 1891. However, looking at the GRO index there's only two John Thomas Parkers who died in this decade, one being his father (1883) and the other being a guy from Northamptonshire who died in Islington 1889.

I'm guessing my JTP died in Staffordshire or possibly in Lancashire where his wife ended up. There are several called "John Parker" who fit this bill, but I can't afford to splash out money on certificates if there's little chance they had an unrecorded middle name.