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I'd never heard of such a probate existing? That would be amazing if I was able to see it.

That's definitely him. The people mentioned in the newspaper for his funeral are my great aunts and uncles. The parents names really sent me on a goose chase last year, but his marriage cert gives a James and Mary as the parents which has lead me to the Foxes of WA.

The father's name being wrong makes me think he didn't speak much about his family to his wife. Death certs aren't always that reliable. I'm still very interested though, even if it doesn't bring much light to his early life.

The born 1877 in Perth, WA. Working as a Salesman on the marriage cert really is the best clue I have of his early life.

A little more on the Canadian Quinliven.

the 1861 Census in Arthur, Wellington, Ontario, Canada
The family is and Irish couple Michael and Bridget Quinleven or Quinlinen who have a daughter Mary born 1854

1871
The family are in the same spot under the name Quinleven

1881
The family are there under the name Quinliven now and Mary has left home.

That's the closest I've come to the Canadian Mary Quinliven. No sign of Theodore's yet. I may need to find someone with a FIBIS account to try the names Sydney/Quinliven/Theodore through.

There was a tail of Mary being part Brazilian/Portuguese or even Chinese. That story was passed down the generations, but I've found many contradicting things already. I feel like I'm getting somewhere with this though.

Hi everyone. I'm stuck with history of my Great Grandfather. Joseph Henry Sydney.
He was born in Howrah, Calcutta, Bengal India 9 Oct 1886.
He was baptized there a little over a month later. His parents given were George and Mary Sydney.

He eventually moved to Australia. Where on his marriage cert in 1912 showed his parents as George Sydney and Mary Quinliven, with his birthplace as Calcutta. His death cert has the same parents listed.

I found a British man named J H Sydney arriving to Fremantle, Western Australia from Singapore on a ship called the Minderoo. 25th November 1910. I assume that if he grew up his whole life in Asia, that he would arrive from an Asian country.

There was a marriage between a George Sydney and a widowed Mary Theodore in Rangoon Bengal, India July 1887. Modern day Yangon, Burma. It could be that Mary was previously a Quinliven, but I don't know for sure? That marriage happened nearly one year after Joseph was already born. I hear that's not uncommon back then in those countries, but I can't be sure these George and Mary are the right ones, other than that my great Aunt recalls her mother (Joseph's wife) saying that Joseph may have been educated in Burma.

There is record of a George Sydney dying in Rangoon, Bengal in 1914. This is probably the one from the Wedding there. The marriage cert with Mary Theodore and age on his death cert are a match within a year (1854-1855), and the marriage cert states that his father was a Thomas Sydney. I have no other details. And these were all transcribed either through familysearch and findmypast so I haven't seen what else that certificate might have had written on it.

I don't really know how to proceed. Can someone please kindly give me some ideas where to go from here?

Hi Everyone,

I'm a little late to Fox family talk. Almost 5 years too late. I hope some of you are still active on here.

I've come up my relative Alexander Fox who was born in Perth 1877, according to his marriage certificate. His parents listed where James Fox and Mary Gord. There's no Marriage between those two in WA, nor any birth certificates from WA to back up that he was born there. All I have is several families bringing up the fact that there was an Alexander Fox, born 1877 in the family of James and Mary Fox. Including an old Perth Pioneers book which mentions this same family that everyone is talking about here.

joboy mentioned this Alexander in the first post. In the murder trial when Alexander spoke it's mentioned that he worked in a popular Perth department store since he was a teenager. A little clue to my Alexander because he worked his entire life as a manager or hardware stores across Australia and NZ.

The other clue is AlexNoodle mentioning the Marriage Cert for John Fox to Elizabeth in 1899 mentioning his mother as Mary Powell Goode. Interesting how Alexander had his mother as "Gord", which sounds very much like Goode when spoken out loud. Maybe it was Mary's Maiden name and she was married once or so before taking the name Barry? There were other spelling errors on the Marriage cert, so I thought it's possible to be another spelling mistake. Roden43 even mentioned that certificates were sometimes in phonetic pronunciations.

Otherwise. I don't have anymore clues about Alexander's life before marriage. He was born in WA, married in New Zealand, had kids in NZ and Victoria, and spent the rest of his life in NSW. He also went by the name Alexander Edward Fox. He didn't bother to state his middle name on his marriage cert. Only after his marriage does he begin to add the "Edward" to his documentation. I don't know how he arrived in NZ before his 1904 Marriage or whether he kept in contact with the rest of his family.

I would love to know what John Alexander Fox's other two marriage certs say about the mother's surnames. If they're consistent. But I feel like I'm grasping at straws at his point.

Hope people were still interested in this family as I am.

Sean