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Can anyone help me untangle my Holling(s)worth line in Leeds?

Eliza Hollingsworth was my 3x g-grandmother.  She married George Chappell (spelt Chappelle on this record) at St Peter’s, Leeds on 17 September 1851, aged 19. Both were of Dufton’s Yard.  A line was struck through where Eliza’s paternal details should have been. Witnesses were Benjamin Musgrave and Edwin Moore.

Eliza gave her birthplace as Woodhouse, Yorks in 1861 and Leeds in 1871. She died in 1875 aged 43.

I believe she was baptised at St Peter’s, Leeds on 19 Feb 1832 with a possible cousin George baptised the same day:

George Hollingworth born 15 Oct 1831 s/o Joseph (clothier) and Hannah, of Little London
Eliza Hollingworth born 15 Jan 1832 d/o Elizabeth (spinster), of Little London

None of these people have been reliably traced in 1841 or 1851. For obvious reasons I think and hope that Joseph may be linked to (perhaps a brother of) Elizabeth, and I am therefore keen to trace him as well as Elizabeth, about whom I know nothing that is not in the 1832 baptism record of her daughter.

The George Hollingworth who married Mary Ann Neuth at St Peter, Leeds on 18 Oct 1853 looks likely to be a son of Joseph (clothier, of Woodhouse) and Emma Wells who married at St Peter’s in 1831. Could this be the right family in disguise - with Emma wrongly entered as Hannah on George’s 1832 baptism? The “clothier” and “Woodhouse” links are promising. Joseph and Emma, who also had a son Isaac in 1834, are easily found in the censuses, living in Hunslet.

I keep getting hints about a family with some similar names in Hull, but suspect they are a red herring.

This line has proved really hard.  On her deathbed my great-aunt said they were “gypsies”.  Who knows. 

I started a thread a long time ago: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=287446.msg2148489#msg2148489 (things have moved on a little since then.  I do not believe the Lancs baptisms are relevant).

William Titson was my 4x g-grandfather. His life as known:

Born Surrey (per 1841 census) c1802-6
Married to Ann Millington, 27 March 1826 Islington.  Witnesses: Robert Farley, Eliza Smith.
Three known daughters born 1827-1835: Mary Ann, *Elizabeth, Jane Charlotte (*my ancestor)
1841: Living in (slum) Grotto Place, Southwark. William (35) is a measure maker.
1847: Wife Ann dies in Grotto Place, of typhus, in December, aged 41.
1848: William dies in Grotto Place, of typhus, in January, aged 45.

I have recently been able to establish that William’s mother was Susannah bc 1772-3, maiden name unknown, who married as widow Susannah Titson to Thomas Remnant in Chiddingfold in 1806.  I am confident in this Susannah because I have a DNA link to a descendant of this remarriage.  Unfortunately Susannah died in late 1838 - early 1839 (buried at Chiddingfold 2 Jan 1839 aged 66) so does not appear in any census.

I would love to know who Susannah was (maiden name), and who was the father of William Titson.  Any ideas much appreciated 

Just got my report from 23andme - my first and only test (so far at least).  I have a very extensive tree but am the first (known) family member to test.  Both my parents are in the testing process too.

First question: mtDNA.  My haplogroup is (just) H.  Other 23andme people seem to have much more specific haplogroup results - e.g. H13a1a for a suggested “third cousin”.  Why is mine so unspecific?

Second question: DNA relatives.  The closest suggested are third and fourth cousins.  The very closest shares 52cM over 4 segments, but her recent ancestry is in Nova Scotia while mine is rooted in England & Scotland.  There is not a single familiar (to me) surname in the list of over 1,000 suggested third and more distant cousins.  How reliable are these, and to what extent can this sort of “match” occur due to chance?

Third question: Close relatives.  Will my reports be adjusted when I link to my parents, once their results are ready?

NB there is no danger that my father is not my father - I have inherited a rare medical condition from him

This is not a brand-new article, but new to me and I have found it a very interesting read on the socioeconomic, cultural and local factors influencing family size, family planning and attitudes to parenthood in the period 1850-1914:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3865739/#!po=0.375940

Just thought others on here might find it interesting too.

Hi all

The following, from FreeBMD, appear to be birth registrations for the post-1837 children of James & Jane Norris, who had settled in Hitchin, Herts before 1841.  They are all with the widowed Jane (b abt 1799 Wilton, Wilts) in Hitchin in 1851, and other census info is easily found.

Thomas Norris, Sep qtr 1839 Hitchin 6 516
Miriam Norris, Mar qtr 1842 Hitchin 6 559
William Norris, Sep qtr 1844 Hitchin 6 509

However, I am failing to get any results searching for these registrations on the GRO Online site, for Jane's maiden name.  Can anyone do better?