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Many thanks, I'll take a look when I can. Never know something may have survived.
Regards
Derek

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Thanks for the update.
The PRO is where I found the burial record.
The EOLFHS mention it but don't say where it is.
It still partly exists according to the London Cemeteries web site but it does not give an address, it has to be somewhere near Globe Rd and the Railway.
Thanks
Derek

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Hi All,
I have just found out that my GGGGGrandmother may have been buried at the Globe Fields Burial Ground (Wesleyan).
Her name was ELizabeth Jeffryes and the whole family are hard to find as they seem to have been Non Conformist and to have not attended the established church. A Wesleyan connection would not surprise me.
The burial entry reads '1835 Jun 21, Elizabeth Jeffryes age 60 yrs, Abode: Church St, Mile End New Town, Situation: 33n, 12n, E.'
Can anyone tell me where this cemetry is as I can't find it on the AtoZ map of Bethnal Green?
Has anyone been there and can tell me if there are any toombstones still standing?
Is her toombstone still there and is there an inscription that may give any information about her?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks
Derek

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Kent / Martin family - Chipstead, Chevening
« on: Monday 30 July 07 15:18 BST (UK)  »
I am looking for anyone who has information on Henry and Mary Martin who had 2 daughters Mary Martin baptised 31 May 1789, Chevening and Elizabeth Martin baptised 04 Mar 1792, Chevening. Henry and Mary do not seen to have been married in Chevening, does anyone know where they were from?
In the 1851 census Mary is married to Edward Capes from Twyford, Norfolk, married Stepney 1820 but he also could have been married to Elizabeth in 1810 in Greenwich who must have died ca 1818, possibly in London.
Thanks
Derek

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Somerset / Re: SHENTON family in Chelvey
« on: Saturday 21 July 07 12:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi Uksiss,
The Shenton name in Somerset is according to one archivist at the Somerset Record Office ' Very rare' so there is a very good chance that your John 1799 in Congresbury is related to my Thomas b ca 1720. Axbridge is only 9 miles from Chelvey and 5.5 miles from Congresbury. Ag Labs seemed to have moved to where the work was and don't seem to have settled anywhere for long, which makes them difficult to trace. At least with an uncommon name like Shenton when you find someone with the right name and age there is a good chance it is the right person.
I have checked the Chelvey PR back as far as 1668 and there are no other Shentons, I have also checked other nearby parishes while looking for other families and have not found any earlier Shentons. I assume that as you have a 'brick wall' with your John, the early Shentons are not in Congresbury or Axbridge either.
Looks like you and Debbie are possibly descended from the same John Shenton.
A John Shenton married Mary Whippy in Street on 6 March 1764, possibly the parents of your John snr.
I understand that the LDS are soon going to extend the coverage on the IGI for Somerset so hopefully it will include this area. It will make finding places to check easier witout having to fruitlessly search parish by parish.
If I find a connection between your Shenton line and mine I'll let you know.
My other names from this area are Chidsey/Chidgy, Coomer and King.
Regards
Derek

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Somerset / Re: Shenton family in Chelvey
« on: Wednesday 27 June 07 13:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Debbie,
Good to know that I'm not alone but there are so few Shentons in Somerset that there won't be many looking for them and there is a good chance that they are all related.

I don't have a John Shenton b. ca 1800 in my tree but I have only managed to trace my line through Chelvey to Nailsea and Yatton.

My sources:
I have a copy of the Chelvey, Yatton and Nailsea parish registers on microfiche.
The B&A FHS North Somerset index of marriages for 1754 - 1837 on CD this index only lists 12 male and 5 female marriages for name Shenton.

Others must have married in villiages south of the area covered by the B&A FHS index.
There are some marriages in the index that I can't place, possibly children of people whose marriages I have not located.

These are the Shenton names I have in my tree.

Generation 1
Thomas Shenton b. c 1720 married Hannah but not in Chelvey actual place is still unknown.

Generation 2
The children of Thomas and Hannah were:
James   b. 25 Jan 1747
Mary    b. 19 Jan 1749
William b. 19 Sep 1750
Thomas  b. 29 Apr 1752
Hannah  b. 21 Feb 1755
John    b. 14 Jul 1756
Sarah   b. 27 Oct 1757
Jane    b. 28 Oct 1760

James married Mary King in 1773 in Nailsea - my line.
Hannah probably married Robert Hasel in Barrow Gurney in 1777
John probably married Betty Goodenough in Wrington in 1882

Generation 3
The children of James and Mary were:
Mary     b. 26 Mar 1775
James    b. 7 Apr 1779
William  b. 9 Sep 1781
Thomas   b. 9 Mar 1783

James married Sarah ?, place and date unknown but not in the area covered by the B&A FHS index.

Generation 4
The Children of James and Sarah were:
Sarah    b.  24 May 1804
Ann      b.  23 Mar 1806
James    b.  5 Jun 1808
Harriet  b.  14 Apr 1811

Sarah married Samuel Chidsey - my line. Lived Yatton and then Bedminster.


End of known Shenton names.

The Chelvey PR shows 3 Thomas Shenton marriages 1762, 1774 and 1782 but it is unclear to which Thomas Shenton they refer.
The 1762 marriage can not be Thomas son of Thomas b 1752 so this is probably another Thomas Shenton (?brother of John?)
On the other 2 marriages one is a widower so a second marriage but I can't decide which Thomas it was that re married, father or son as they both may have married Hannahs. Needs more work.

Regards
Derek

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Brown, Robert of Hackney
« on: Thursday 03 May 07 12:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi Meliora,
Many thanks once again for your great help.
I'll try further afield when I next get up to the LMA.
In the 1851 census they both say they were born in Hackney so I have concentrated there.
Best wishes
Derek

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Brown, Robert of Hackney
« on: Wednesday 02 May 07 18:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Meloria,
Thanks, West Hackney was the church where I found the baptisms, didn't know it had an alternate name.
First child listed was in 1824 April, just after the church was founded, so there may be others baptised elsewhere.
Still can't find the marriage, not at West Hackney, or St Mary's Stoke Newington and have checked St John Hackney back to 1817.
I need to find another church near Stoke Newington where they may have married, they lived in Bowling Green St near Abney Park Cemetry.
Thanks for the help
Regards
Derek

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Brown, Robert of Hackney
« on: Tuesday 01 May 07 22:54 BST (UK)  »
Dear Meliora,
When you found your family at St Barnabas, did you get back to 1824?
I have at last managed to get to the LMA and they claim that St Barnabas records begin in 1847.
Or is St Barnabas with St Paul, Homerton High St. C 1824-1924 a different church?
I have found some of my family at West Hackney Church but not the marriage.
Thanks
Derek

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