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Lancashire / Re: Jericho, Bury.
« on: Saturday 25 March 06 14:51 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: liverpool annie on Thursday 23 March 06 23:15 GMT (UK)


Hi Josh and welcome to RootsChat :) :) :) :)

Have you tried Bury Archives ?

http://www.bury.gov.uk/LeisureAndCulture/Libraries/Archives/default.htm

Worth a try! also Bury comes under Greater Manchester now - you might try there also !

Annie  :)

   Thank you Annie I e-mailed Bury Archives and am just awaiting a reply from them.

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Lancashire / Jericho, Bury.
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 22:42 GMT (UK)  »
   I am trying to find out as much as I can about the history of Jericho, Bury, Lancs, the village that my mother was born in and I was born in, so that I can fill in a bit of my own biography. I have searched high and low on the internet for information but to no avail. All the history I find there revolves around the hospital and little else.

   I am fascinated to know as to why, for instance, the place was named Jericho, and also by who and when? Who were the earliest builders and settlers in Jericho? e.t.c. It is as mysterious to me as the Bermuda triangle!

   I met an elderly woman from Jericho once and she told me that the original settlers there were a denomination of christians who sought to build a new and miniaturised version of Israel there. I wonder if it was they that inspired Blake to write 'Jerusalem?'

   Do you know anything about the history of the place?

     josh.

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Lincolnshire / North Cockerington & the Dixons.
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 21:08 GMT (UK)  »

   Hallo. I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather George Richard Dixon and trying to research my Dixon family line.

   The information that my Lancashire family have about George R.Dixon is fairly miniscule but here goes.

   George was born 28th or 29th July 1901 and he died in Manchester on 17th March 1993. He had two sisters, Doris and Agnes and a brother, Richard.

   His father was Richard Dixon and his mother was Elisabeth Woodfield, born 17th October 1868 and Richard and Elisabeth were married to each other. Richard had a half sister called Mary Ann(b.1822 - d.1887).

   George married Ethel Brundritt(b.1902 - d.27th Feb 1940) and they had two children, Harold(b.29th Sep 1926) and Elsie(b.29th Mar1931 - d.17th June 2004).

   Elsie married Harry Thetford(b.16th Nov 1917 - d.29th June 1965) on 17th June 1951. They had two children, Irene(b.15th Feb 1952) & Ian(b.6th July 1954).

   After Ethel died George married again and had a son called Maurice. Maurice Dixon married Lois. George is buried in Blackley Cemetry in Manchester.

   I wonder whether George was from Lincolnshire being that his son Harold lives nearby in Wiltshire. His daughter Elsie said that as far as she knew he was from a place beginning with the letter L.

   I have found a branch of Dixons that comes from Lincolnshire and I will post my findings if anyone needs me to. I would like help in verifying this information. All help is welcome.

   Thank you for reading this. josh.

   

   

   

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Ireland / Thetfords in and from Ireland.
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 19:41 GMT (UK)  »

   Yesterday I think I hit a brick wall when I discovered that one of my relatives, a Henry Thetford born abt 1819, was listed in an 1861 English Census Record as being born in Ireland though where abouts in Ireland remains a mystery.

   Can you help?

   josh.

   

   

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Lancashire / Re: Thetford
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Josh on Thursday 23 March 06 18:23 GMT (UK)
   After immediately signing up for a free 14 day trial with www.ancestry.co.uk yesterday I continued a search for Henry & Ruth Thetford.

   I ended up spending all day on Ancestry.co.uk and so I apologise to Mary A for not responding to the above post any sooner. I didn't fully realise how engrossed I was until I looked up from my computer keyboard and glanced at the clock at 2-30 a.m. It is lucky I didn't have to be up early to go out to work.

   I hope to be ordering a Henry & Ruth marriage certificate next Thursday. Thank you Mary.

                                    The Story So Far.

   I took the information about Henry and Ruth from a little red address book that belonged to my Grandmother Elsie who died two years ago in 2004. In it, according to her son Andrew, who carefully read the contents of the book to me over the telephone ealier this year, she wrote: 'Henry Thetford died Jan 12th 1922 aged 56. Ruth Thetford died Feb 15th 1951 aged 84.'

   If that information is correct then I calculate that Ruth would have been born either in 1867 or (1951 - 84 = 1867) or 1866 (1866 + 84 = 1950 + 'X' days).

   Using the information that Mary A supplied I ran a search for a Ruth Hulse, died 1951, Lancs and an 1871 England Census Record came back with a family of Hulse's for me to take a look at. The marriage certificate Mary discovered stated that Ruth was 23 when she married Henry on 24th April 1889 which presumably meant that she was born in 1866 or the year before, 1865.

   The 1871 Census Record mentions a Ruth Hulse aged 6 years old, estimated year of birth 1865. However the census also says that she was not born in Winston in Cheshire but that she was born in Newton in Manchester (!!!). I think I need to study a map at some point or speak to a historian... Ruth Hulse born 1865 in Newton = somebody else....? Date doesn't match and place doesn't match although both sound 'close'...

   An 1881 England Census Record added a further twist to my searches. In this census is a 'servant' called Ruth Hulse aged 14, est.birth.year 1867. (A 'date' match!). This Ruth is born in 'Utkinton' in Cheshire, in the civil parish of Willington.... 

   Questions drift through my mind: How near are Winston & Utkinson in Cheshire? Do they belong to each other? i.e. Winston of Utkinson, in Cheshire or vice versa... Was Utkinson once called Winston? What can I learn about the Parish of Willington, Cheshire? Fetch me my pipe my dear Watson...

   I spoke to my mother Irene and her brother, my Uncle Ian, and neither of them had a clue as to who their Great Grandparents Henry & Ruth were in the first place and so that was a dead end.

   I will write about what I think that I might have found out about Henry when I can decipher the great wad of notes I have written since yesterday properly. I hope that this post so far has been entertaining enough for anyone that has read it. All help has been and will continually be very gratefully recieved.

   thank you. josh.

   

   

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Lancashire / Re: Thetford
« on: Thursday 23 March 06 18:23 GMT (UK)  »
   After immediately signing up for a free 14 day trial with www.ancestry.co.uk yesterday I continued a search for Henry & Ruth Thetford.

   I ended up spending all day on Ancestry.co.uk and so I apologise to Mary A for not responding to the above post any sooner. I didn't fully realise how engrossed I was until I looked up from my computer keyboard and glanced at the clock at 2-30 a.m. It is lucky I didn't have to be up early to go out to work.

   I hope to be ordering a Henry & Ruth marriage certificate next Thursday. Thank you Mary.

                                    The Story So Far.

   I took the information about Henry and Ruth from a little red address book that belonged to my Grandmother Elsie who died two years ago in 2004. In it, according to her son Andrew, who carefully read the contents of the book to me over the telephone ealier this year, she wrote: 'Henry Thetford died Jan 12th 1922 aged 56. Ruth Thetford died Feb 15th 1951 aged 84.'

   If that information is correct then I calculate that Ruth would have been born either in 1867 (1951 - 84 = 1867) or 1866 (1866 + 84 = 1950 + 'X' days).

   Using the information that Mary A supplied I ran a search for a Ruth Hulse, died 1951, Lancs and an 1871 England Census Record came back with a family of Hulse's for me to take a look at. The marriage certificate stated that Ruth was 23 when she married Henry on 24th April 1889 which presumably meant that she was born in 1866 or the year before, 1865.

   The 1871 Census Record mentions a Ruth Hulse aged 6 years old, estimated year of birth 1865. However the census also says that she was not born in Winston in Cheshire but that she was born in Newton in Manchester (!!!). I think I need to study a map at some point or speak to a historian... Ruth Hulse born 1865 in Newton = somebody else....? Date doesn't match and place doesn't match although both sound 'close'...

   An 1881 England Census Record added a further twist to my searches. In this census is a 'servant' called Ruth Hulse aged 14, est.birth.year 1867. (A 'date' match!). This Ruth is born in 'Utkinton' in Cheshire, in the civil parish of Willington.... 

   Questions drift through my mind: How near are Winston & Utkinson in Cheshire? Do they belong to each other? i.e. Winston of Utkinson, in Cheshire or vice versa... Was Utkinson once called Winston? What can I learn about the Parish of Willington, Cheshire? Fetch me my pipe my dear Watson...

   I spoke to my mother Irene and her brother, my Uncle Ian, and neither of them had a clue as to who their Great Grandparents Henry & Ruth were in the first place and so that was a dead end.

   I will write about what I think that I might have found out about Henry when I can decipher the great wad of notes I have written since yesterday properly. I hope that this post so far has been entertaining enough for anyone that has read it. All help has been and will continually be very gratefully recieved.

   thank you. josh.

   

   

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Lancashire / Re: Thetford
« on: Wednesday 22 March 06 11:47 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: MaryA on Wednesday 22 March 06 01:23 GMT (UK)
Could this be him? Clarence Thetford born September qtr 1893 Salford Manchester 8d 78

With this information you can order the birth certificate online at www.gro.gov.uk at a cost of £7.

1901
16 Grasmere Street, Broughton, Lancashire
Henry Thetford Head M 35 Corn Shop Assistant Lancashire
Ruth Wife M 33 Cheshire
Ethel daur S 11 Lancs
Clarence " S 7 "
RG13/3724 Broughton Salford Folio 87 Page 21


   Mary A you are fabulous! The only other information that I had was that Clarence's father was Henry Thetford, died 12th January 1922 and that Clarence's mother was called Ruth, died 15th February 1951. Now, thank's to you, I know that Clarence had an elder sister, he grew up in sunny Broughton(!), the address of the house he and his family lived in, his father's occupation e.t.c.  Please excuse me....I am ecstatic!

   I'm off to telephone my mother with the good news.

     

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Lancashire / Thetford
« on: Wednesday 22 March 06 01:07 GMT (UK)  »

  I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather, Clarence Thetford. I was given a copy of his death certificate a couple of days ago. He died on 16th September 1963 and was cremated at Agecroft Cemetry. His wife was called Florence Parker and she came from the U.S.A. Other information I have is that he died at home, 22 Chester Avenue, Whitefield, Manchester.

  I am new to genealogy and so I am looking here for help from experienced genealogists that might give me some good pointers.

  josh.

   

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