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Turns out this John O'Donnell is not the right one!
Can't be his death date after all. So this takes me back to tracking him after his time in Egypt in 1922?!
Help  ??? ???

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Ah ok, thanks so much anyway!

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Thank you so much!
This is such a fantastic insight! I have tried to find this excerpt myself but have struggled, can you please send me a link?


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Well if it helps the date of death, I have found out is Aug 13th 1922?
I am also searching for the death certificate or something for my Grandfather (John O'Donnell) I have been told now that he died/buried on September 3rd 1975 in Carrick on Suir...
Reckon we could find something on this?

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I think you may have cracked the Bridget Hemmi question Gaffy! It has to be her!
Can you please link


... I recently discovered my Grandfather; John O'Donnell born 1902 in Carrick on Suir ...


Funnily enough, that is the one birth registration that I haven't yet found in Carrick on Suir.


I've found a transcript of what I suspect is a baptism for John, he was baptised in the RC parish of Trinity Without (15 miles SE of Carrick on Suir in Waterford City) on 8 June 1902, parents listed as Thomas O'Donnell and Ellen Curran of Philip Street, the sponsors were John Forristal and Margaret Kerins.  I still can't see a civil birth registration, so I'm wondering if Thomas and Ellen were just visiting someone in the city or otherwise there temporarily and the civil birth registration for John got forgotten about in returning home to Carrick on Suir?

I can also see transcripts of baptisms for Patrick (1900) and Bridget (1904), the one for Bridget is important, for it sits well with the civil birth registration for Bridget Byrne (that I posted above at Reply #1) in all but surname.  In the transcript, she was recorded as Brigid O'Donnell, baptised in Carrick on Suir RC parish on 18 September 1904, the address given as Town Wall, parents Thomas O'Donnell and Ellen Curran, sponsors James and Eliza Cunningham.

So baptised O'Donnell and registered as Byrne.  Hmmm...



Can you please put the link for Johns Baptism because I can't seem to find it anywhere and the same for Bridget and Patrick that you found please??

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Yes this is Bridget Hemmi! Thank you!
 I just wondered if her mother; the Nellie O'Donnell born Byrnes was a connection to the Michael and Elizabeth Byrnes filed as witnesses to Thomas O'Donnell and Ellen Currans marriage in 1891..?

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Gaffy..
Do you have any ideas about Thomas O'Donnell and his parents etc?
I have since researched Bridget Hemmi (one of the ladies who was a credible source for the change of name for Christina O'Donnell) she was in fact born O'Donnell herself by Thomas O'Donnell and Nellie O'Donnell (born Burns) I wonder if this in fact "Byrnes" and thus why she was credible for the name change as perhaps she is a relative of Christinas or one of Michael Byrne and Elizabeth Byrne the witness to Thomas and Ellens Marriage?
Would love your thoughts?

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So I have discovered that Garryrue was a local name in the town of Carrick on Suir at the turn of the 19th-20th Century. Its Gaelic name was Garrai Rua (Red Gardens) anglicised to Garryrue and its English translation is Red Garden Lane. Evidently, it means the Red Garden, where there was blood shed in a battle. The Garryrue extended from the rear of Lough St to the rear of New St, Carrick in an area now known in the present Pierce/Pearce Square, it extends from what was Town Wall down to 'The Green'. Garraí Rua was an area in the town, opposite the green, it was a laneway near the centre of the town Carrick on Suir.

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John O'Donnell and Amelia Masters never married; as my Grandmother had 5 other children from a previous marriage, John was not in a position to support this size of family, so after initially bring money and items from the black market to help with the maintenance of his child, he left.

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