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Other reasons?
Maybe he wasn't in England/Wales at the time?


Was his family Irish? He might have gone to Ireland.

Yes Maiden Stone, his family and himself are from Carrick on Suir, County Tipperary, Ireland but they all came over to the UK or unfortunately passed in Carrick so I would be surprised if he went back there when all his remaining siblings and father were in the UK you know?

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Thanks so much Josey!

I will have a look into that. Although I feel pretty certain he didn't rejoin. He would have been 37 years old in 1939 and also he had quite the record for going AWOL and trying to leave the army in WW1 according to his papers.
So I just don't get the feeling that he would have then signed up to fight in WW2.

Would his record be blocked for any reason? Why would this be and how would I go about unblocking it potentially.

Do you also have any idea of accessing electoral rolls for after 1939 as I have found they are fairly scarce in the areas I am researching ie, Watford, Hertfordshire and St Pancras, London in the 1940's, 1950s and 1960s???

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Hi Monica, Annette and Maiden Stone!
Thank you all so much!

Yes brother Patrick registered his death.
His birthday is on the death cert but also his army record backs this up :)
Yes I know Patrick is his brother from the death cert but also this corresponds with the Irish census from 1911.
They also lived together in Rowton House in St Pancras, London together in the 1920s from 1923 to 1926/7

I can find Patrick in Watford, Herts with wife Olive in the 1939 census right where my Grandfather was reported to be when meeting my Grandmother and my father was born 10 years later.
Patrick and Olive also married in Watford the same year that my father was born in 1949.

Interestingly the date of birth of Patrick in the 1939 census is the wrong year.
He was born 10 August 1900 but on the 1939 census he is listed as 10 August 1902 which of course was the year my grandfather was born not Patrick.

I have birth registrations and baptismal records for all of my grandfathers siblings to back up these dates.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of looking for WW2 records of soldiers as I am finding these much harder to find online unlike WW1?

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No I haven't. I can't access them sadly as I do not have the funds to upgrade my subscritpion on ancestry etc.

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Yes! Again I can't place Patrick either after 1939 until the late 1970's in Luton.

It isn't to say he was residing near or with Patrick, its just he has previously and does in later life so that was one of the avenues I was going down and plus the address that Patrick is living in with Wife Olive in the 1939 census is precisely in the area that I am looking to track down my grandfather in over the following 10 years.

I will defo check out the ww2 records though and see if he pops up.

Sorry of course, his DOB is 31st of May 1902
I don't have his birth certificate but like I say, I do have his Death cert.

This is the problem, my grandfather didn't marry my grandmother. but I do know that he was around at the time of the birth as she spoke of him coming round to see my father and bought with him, items from the black market.

Thanks so much for your interest and input thus far, if you need any more info I will give it gladly to help you help me !!

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Thanks K!

Do you meet for WW2? As I don't believe he was signed up to fight in WW2, he was a soldier in WW1.

Would there be another reason, he's not on there?

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Hi!
I am trying desperately to place my grandfather, John O'Donnell on paper in the Watford Area in Hertfordshire around 1949.

I know he was there as that was when my father was born.

I have him previously tracked until 1926 in the St Pancras Area in London with siblings also local.
I can then place him again in the late 1970's in Luton, Bedfordshire living with his brother 'Patrick' until he dies in 1980.
The same brother I can find in the UK 1939 register literally a few roads away from where I grew up and understand that my grandfather lived near by in and around 1949 but have no more info than that and cannot find him anywhere in the whole country in the 1939 census let alone Watford.
 
I cannot seem to account for my grandfather at all or at any point during the 'missing' 50 odd years and I would be so so grateful and appreciative of anyone being able to help me place him at any time through this period.

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Hertfordshire Lookup Requests / Watford Area - John O'Donnell 1930's - 1950's
« on: Sunday 15 August 21 19:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi!
I am trying desperately to place my grandfather, John O'Donnell on paper in the Watford Area in Hertfordshire around 1949.

I know he was there as that was when my father was born.

I have him previously tracked until 1926 in the St Pancras Area in London with siblings also local.
I can then place him again in the late 1970's in Luton, Bedfordshire living with his brother 'Patrick' until he dies in 1980.
The same brother I can find in the UK 1939 register literally a few roads away from where I grew up and understand that my grandfather lived near by in and around 1949 but have no more info than that and cannot find him anywhere in the whole country in the 1939 census let alone Watford.
 
I cannot seem to account for my grandfather at all or at any point during the 'missing' 50 odd years and I would be so so grateful and appreciative of anyone being able to help me place him at any time through this period.

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World War One / Re: MOD can reissue returned WW1 medals
« on: Monday 26 July 21 18:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi I have some documents in my great grandfathers service records that show that he was awarded the MM (military medal) for his action in the Second Battle of Passchendaele. According to these letters, my grandfather is asking for his medal that he was awarded but never received. He claims that he has written multiple letters to no return and in his belongings after his death he had his British War Medal and the Victory Medal but not the Military Medal despite it clearly being awarded on medal roll and in the London gazette at the time. This can only make me assume that like others here, the medal never made it to my great grandfather and was returned.

Anyone else think that this sounds about right?
And if so, do you think that these letters within his service record would be enough evidence.
Finally, if this all looks positive then how is it that I apply for this through the MOD because I have tried looking on the gov website etc but can't find the link to the applicable forms when looking for a reissue of a returned medal WW1.

Any help would be sooooo gratefully appreciated.

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