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Quote from: 1931census on Thursday 25 August 22 14:57 BST (UK)

Quote from: johnhood on Thursday 25 August 22 14:25 BST (UK)

Yes they are ALL surnamed Jelley. Also living in the same household are

Margaret Lord 1890 born Hamstead
Kathleen Lord 1920 born City Road London
William Healy 1882 born London.

John

That is certainly confusing for me! Do you think you could send a picture of the record for me to look at?
Thank you for all the additional information!

Cannot post images of 1921 census for copyright reasons.

John

Could you link it to me in a private message?

Freesearch 1921 census has William Jelley with mother Maria, and siblings.

Maria Jelley 1860 Ireland
William 1863 London
Henry 1870 Unknown
Sarah 1872 St Pancras
George T M  1887 Bow
William 1892 Hamstead
Dorothy Ellen 1893 Hampstead
Grace Kathleen 1896 Hampstead
Margaret 1896 Godalming Surrey

John

Hello - do all these people have the surname 'Jelley'? I don't have records for Henry, Sarah and George.

Dorothy Ellen Jelley Davies was born on the 30th September 1893 at 9 Mansfield Road in the district Pancras, London, England. Her parents were William and Maria Davies. Maria's maiden name is recorded online as 'Guinner', but due to family knowledge that Maria may have been Irish, I believe this may be a mistranscription of 'Guinness' (the word is hard to read on the certificate itself). I believe that Dorothy had a brother called William Joseph, born in Pancras in the 2nd quarter of 1892 - Maria's name is transcribed as 'Guinnse' here.
Dorothy's birth was reported by an 'H. Jelley' (who likely inspired Dorothy's middle name), who is recorded as being present at the birth. However, Dorothy stopped using this middle name in adulthood, going by just Dorothy Ellen Davies.

Family history also says that Dorothy had a sister (or half sister?) called Margaret (which I can find no record of), and that her father - William - was illegitimate. These facts may or may not be true.

The reason that I am posting here is because I can find no record of the family of William, Maria, William Joseph and Dorothy in any census records, no fitting birth, marriage or death records for William or Maria or any trace of what happened to William Joseph (who I don't believe died young, but lived until at least the 1950s), or Margaret.

I do not need any assistance with investigating Dorothy's marriage, daughter or death. I have these on record already.

I would be very grateful if anybody could help me find any additional information.

Thank you for reading.

Quote from: 1931census on Sunday 27 March 22 23:02 BST (UK)

I have found a few workhouse records that may match, but cannot be sure.

Question #1: Which workhouse records have you found, and for what year(s)?

Question #2: Your avatar photo reminds me of an actress from the 1930s. Is the person in your avatar an ancestor? Just curious...

Ignore the bit about the workhouse records, I no longer believe that they match.

My profile picture is a model who was called Betty May - she was my great-great grandmother's sister.

Eliza Wade was born on the 8th of September 1888, with her twin sister Harriet, as the daughter of Edward Wade (1854 - ?) and Rosanna Wade (nee Gould; previously Dover) (1850 - ?). She had an older sister named Alice - however, Harriet AND Alice died soon after birth, making Eliza the only surviving child of the Wades until the birth of her sister Florrie ten years later (who I have previously posted about).

She appears in the 1901 census with her parents. However, the 1911 census states that out of the Wades' four daughters, only one is living - and the one living must be Florrie, as she appears in it. This indicates that Eliza must have, like Alice and Harriet, died - however, I can find absolutely no corresponding death record or marriage record (as she may have died under a married name). I have combed through all records that may match, and found out that they were different women.

Furthermore, in the 1911 census with her parents and sister, her name actually appears but is crossed out: 'Lizzie Wade - 23 - Single - Born in Wistow - English.'

I am very confused - can anybody help?