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The Lighter Side / An-ces-ter-ee
« on: Friday 06 July 07 18:51 BST (UK)  »
Ah'm spending too long on t'compooter,  >:(
Well, that's what the wife sez to me.
She's 'er 'ed in a book
AND she's 'avin' a look
At some rubbishy soaps on t'TV.

('Cos bein' a lass
Means she CAN multi-task)  ???

I should bring mesel' back to the future,
Could surprise 'er and make 'er some tea  :)
Or could purrup a shelf
Using Do-It-Meself
"JUST STOP MESSIN' WI' AN-CES-TER-EE".  >:(

('Cos bein' a lad
Means me 'abits are bad)  :P

Maybe she has a point though. After all, family history is a thing of the past with no future in it!

Moderator Comment: topics merged

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Cornwall / Re: Pardoe surname
« on: Sunday 29 April 07 09:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi sharonP,

My PARDOEs were living in Birmingham in 1901, Hednesford (Staffs) in 1891, Cannock (Staffs) in 1881, but before that they were settled in Stratford-on-Avon.

I think you will find that Pardoe or the variant PERDUE is a much more common name than you realise. This is what Ancestry has to say about it........
"English and Irish: from Old French par Dieu ‘by God’, which was adopted in Middle English in a variety of more or less heavily altered forms. The surname represents a nickname from a favorite oath. According to MacLysaght, the surname in Ireland belonged to a French Protestant family who settled in County Cork."


It is a name found very frequently on the continent. There is a family statue in Madrid.

According to Ancestry there were reputedly no Pardoe or Perdue families in Cornwall in 1891.......
http://www.ancestry.com/learn/facts/fact.aspx?&fid=6&ln=Pardoe&fn=&yr=1920

If you look at Ancestry's OneWorldTree........
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/rectype/default.aspx?rt=42
........you will find that one person has a Thomas PARDOE (d1930) who was born in Cornwall but that is the only Cornish PARDOE entry but there are also many other Pardoe OneWorldTrees with Worcs connections.

If you look at Ancestry's Ancestry World Tree........
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hf/
.......you will find a multitude of Pardoe trees (none of which were of any use to me).

Here is a link to 2 other people looking for Pardoe connections - one of whom has Worcs ties...........
http://www.ecriteria.net/LinkSearchResult.asp?DBName=WarwickshireSurnamesList

Good Hunting,

alhal

MODERATOR COMMENT: Very long link shrunk using http://www.rootschat.com/links/

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Lancashire / Re: Hallstead family of Little Bolton, 1841
« on: Sunday 29 April 07 00:12 BST (UK)  »
Thanks "Heywood" for your response and interest.

Yes, I have the later Census entries for Thomas, Betsy and John.

The Betty shown in 1841 is presumably the Betty (nee ASPINALL) that Thomas married in 1825.

In 1851, as you confirm, the surname has changed from HALLSTEAD to ALLSTEAD, there is a lodger, Betsy, with her daughter and the references are as you quoted. Wife Betty has presumably died by now (or just left).

In 1861 the surname is again ALLSTEAD, Betsy becomes Betty and the reference is RG9/2821/81/4.

In 1871 the surname is now ALESTEAD, Betty is confirmed as Thomas's sister, John has married and is still living with Thomas but now also with his wife and 3 children and the reference is RG10/3933/58/60.

By the time of the 1881 Census both Thomas and Betty have died.

I also have the Census entries for John and his family for 1881, 1891 and 1901.

My biggest problem is confirming the connection of the 1841 head of the house, Ann ELLENSON or ELLISON, with Thomas HALLSTEAD et al.

Looks like I'm going to have to wend my way back home to Bolton and do some mooching around in the records there.

At least this has made me commit this in writing, albeit electronically, which will probably help me long term.

Thanks again,

Allan Halstead (alhal)

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Lancashire / Hallstead family of Little Bolton, 1841
« on: Saturday 28 April 07 18:44 BST (UK)  »
I've had trouble finding my G2Grandfather, primarily because the Halstead One-Name-Study people have been totally mis-informing me.  :(

However, I think that I have now been able to find him and his family living in Little Bolton in 1841.  :)

The family are Thomas (35), Betty (30), William (15), Mary (13), Betsy (9) and John (7) HALLSTEAD.

They are living in Turton Street with a lady named Ann ELLISON or ELLENSON (60'ish) as the head of their household.  ???

On IGI (Batch P007153) there is a reference to a christening of a Thos. HALSTEAD at St Peter's, BLM, on 24 Jul 1803 with parents John and Ann HALSTEAD which could be the aforementioned Thomas whose age in 1841 would indeed round down to 35.

Again on IGI there are references to records of two marriages that could, with a fair wind, turn out to be the aforementioned Ann ELLISON or ELLENSON - both of them within Batch M007151.

One is that of an Anna HALSTEAD to a Thomas ELLISON at St Peter's, BLM, on 24 Oct 1813.

Prior to that there is one of an Ann FIELDING to a John HALSTED at St Peter's, BLM, on 2 Aug 1802.

For these marriages to work for me there would need to be a death of John HALSTED between 2 Aug 1802 and 24 Oct 1813 but, from the comfort of my armchair here in the Midlands, I have been unable to find one.  :(

Before I commit any hard-earned cash or (eughhh, perish the thought  :o ) physical effort I wonder if SKS could please help me clarify my thoughts.  :-\

Regards,

alhal

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Cornwall / Cornish strays in Rumworth, Lancs
« on: Tuesday 06 March 07 10:35 GMT (UK)  »
I notice that in 1881 there was a "Little Cornwall" in Rumworth, Lancs - mostly working at a local cotton mill.

The surnames of these people living between Nos. 17 to 40 Heatons Houses, Rumworth are :-
BATTEN / BOWDEN / BURROWS / CLYMOW / FAUCKNER / GUNN / KEAST / LANDRY / LIBBY / MESSER / MILDING / RICHARDS / RICKARDS / TREVENA / WASLEY / WHITE - amongst whom are two of my families.

The reference nos. are RG11/3820 - Folio Nos. from 87 to 91 - Page Nos. from 28 to 35.

If anyone would like more information I can provide it.

Regards,

Allan Halstead

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Lancashire / Re: "Pauper" or "Paper"? "U" or "Non-U"?
« on: Thursday 12 October 06 21:42 BST (UK)  »
Further to my response to the 3 posts I would like to address this post to Keith Bateman.

What is the date of the map on your website showing paper mills? I have looked at an 1850 map of the Little Lever area and can see mill No. 1 (Creams) only - where I expected to find No. 9 (Grundys) there is a bleach works. So, has Grundys been and gone by this time or did it arrive on the scene later?

Can you share with me the name of the person who has access to the details of apprentice papermakers?

I think I was probably wrong in assuming that my Grundy family worked at Grundys mill because the mill that was near to their home in Meg Row was Creams.

Regards,

alhal


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Lancashire / Re: "Pauper" or "Paper"? "U" or "Non-U"?
« on: Tuesday 10 October 06 23:23 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks to Joe and Sarah for your input.

But.....
..........to Keith
......................what a wonderful website you have. I was particularly pleased to see your map of paper mills in the N. Manchester area.

My ancestors were Grundys from Little Lever. Many of their neighbours worked in a paper mill, so I must assume that they were all working at the one on their collective doorstep - No. 9 on the map - i.e. Grundy's Paper Mill at Little Lever.

I suspect that they themselves were not the owners, merely poor relatives in need of work.

Thanks again,

alhal

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Amazing Grace
« on: Tuesday 10 October 06 09:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi Deb,

How rude of me not to thank you earlier for your post - sorry  :-[

Thanks for the help - I'll follow that trail for a while.

Following our ancestor's trails is like following trails on the moorlands - sometimes you're on the right path - at other times your following sheep tracks :-\

Regards,

alhal

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Lancashire / "Pauper" or "Paper"? "U" or "Non-U"?
« on: Tuesday 10 October 06 08:51 BST (UK)  »
I have a couple of generations of my family working at a paper mill in Little Lever from 1841 to 1861.

One of them has an occupation described as "pauper"  :o but perhaps this should really be "paper" related  ??? - but who cares!

Their homes at that time were Meg-Row & Top o'th' Brow.

Could this mill have been the Radcliffe paper mill where we occasionally played as children in the 1940/1950's or was there really a separate paper mill in Little Lever  ???

Regards,

alhal

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