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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann OWENS - 186?
« on: Saturday 02 September 06 12:15 BST (UK)  »
Colette, Ive just been on the ancestryireland site, and it turns out that it is the wrong Mary Ann. Not feeling too pleased >:(
That is very annoying.

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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann OWENS - 186?
« on: Saturday 02 September 06 10:20 BST (UK)  »
I know Mary Ann and her family were very very Catholic, so maybe this stemmed from the fact that there was and still is a huge cathedral in Down. Maybe the family moved to Down, where Peter was born, and simply moved back, perhaps because Tyrone was "less" Catholic, if you get my meaning. If I was Mary Ann (or her parents), Id certainly want to move back there, if Peter died there, as is possoble. Im going to try that ancestryireland site. Let u know how I get on, but Im fairly optimistic about it.

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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann Owens-186?
« on: Friday 01 September 06 18:14 BST (UK)  »
Wow, I never knew about that site. Thanks Colette. It is bothering me, but I think I will give that site a go, although its £6! Then again, the info is priceless I suppose. Im not sure about the family's movements though, Im as stumped as you on that one Im afraid :-[ However, only one of the children appear to have been born in Tyrone, so it appears they may not have been there long. Maybe my family have heard of Armagh, because thats where Mary Ann left from to go to Scotland (she moved there around 1881). I dont know the order of things, but on two relatives of bernard Owens' certificates, one says farm labourer and the other says school janitor. I somehow think that he had a farm, yet because of tensions at the time, he may have lost the farm, settled in Tyrone, found it wasnt for him, moved back to Down. Then, as things escalated, the family just decided to get out of there.
 Also, he may have lost the farm as a result of the famine years, which I think were (1847-51). I do have a photograph of Mary Ann, but that wont help.
I think this is going to keep me intersted a lot longer. Theyre all out there somewhere, waiting to be found.
Matthew. Thanks again Colette, let me know if anything else comes up!

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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann Owens-186?
« on: Friday 01 September 06 14:47 BST (UK)  »
Hello Colette. Ive just found something, but thought I will check it with you first. Ive just gone to www.ancestryireland.com and put in a search for Mary Ann Owens. I found a Mary Ann Owens born in County Down, in 1862. I have her death certificate from scotlandspeople.gov, that says she was 79 when ahe died in 1941. Count back 79 from 1941 and you get...1862! ;D County Down is where her siblings that you found were all born. Could this really be her? I thought her birth wouldnt be registered. Or is it wishful thinking. I need to be sure before I pay to see the record, but it seem to match. There is the slight chance, though it is somebody else. What do you think. You know Ireland better than I do... Im over in England!
Matthew

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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann Owens-186?
« on: Friday 01 September 06 12:17 BST (UK)  »
I know one child, Joseph Owens b.1879, was born in Downpatrick, so I will research that area firstly.

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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann Owens-186?
« on: Friday 01 September 06 11:47 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Colette. Im having trouble tracing Mary Ann. It is not confirmed, but it was mentioned by my g gran (Mary Ann's daughter), long back. My gran remembers Armagh being mentioned, and also County Down! But the trouble is, being born before 1864, M.A's birth wont be registered, but her baptism would be, but Ive got over a hundred parishes in two (possibly three now Tyrone's come up). If what you sday is true, Mary Ann may have been born in Tyrone! Argh. Im a wee bit frustrated  ???, but I shall carry on looking. Im overseas, but is there a possibility her father will be recorded in any valuation thingys. He was a farm labourer, and I think later a school janitor, in either Ireland or Scotland. Its a shame the info hasnt been recorded in my family, although we have a rough idea. I ll keep you posted though if I find anything. Thanks for the research Colette
Matthew

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Ireland / Re: Mary Ann Owens-186?
« on: Friday 01 September 06 11:01 BST (UK)  »
Wow, thanks Colette. Very useful :D I was thinking Mary Ann's birth would not be registerd, because it was before 1864. Any ideas how I can get hold of parish records for Down, and what does the 0558 Clonavaddy mean. Is it an adress? Parish?

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Ireland / Mary Ann OWENS - 186?
« on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:08 BST (UK)  »
Anybody got info on Mary Ann Owens, daughter of Bernard Owens and Eliza Fox. Bernard's father was called Richard. Mary Ann was born in either Armagh, Down or possibly Tyrone, but the strongest hint is Armagh. Her father Bernard was a farm labourer. Please help, spent a year tryin 2 find her...my g g granny!

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One Name Studies: N to S / Re: OWEN, London (Bermondsey), All dates
« on: Thursday 31 August 06 16:03 BST (UK)  »
Im researching the Owens name! Finally, a hint of optimism! Im researching Owens ancestors in the Armagh/Down/Tyrone area, particularly Armagh. Looking for a Mary Ann Owens, daughter of farm labourer Bernard Owens and Eliza Fox...    if you want to get in touch, my email is   email address removed by moderator - please use the secure Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses - thankyou

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