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Hertfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Bushey - Kelly's or similar abt 1878
« on: Friday 05 February 21 23:16 GMT (UK)  »
Pleased you found the newspaper reports, :) yes Richard got off lightly didn't he. ;) Lucky chap. As the family lived on Clay Hill in 1881 & the next door neighbour was a Baker I'm inclined to think that is where the Fishmongers was. Although at the trial in 87 Richard's address was Merry Hill Lane, perhaps they didn't live over the shop, so to speak. I see Edward Smith is listed as living High Street Bushey in 1861 & possibly 71 when he is a Fishmonger & Beer House Keeper which doesn't help with where the premises actually where situated. Ancestry has Kellys directory for 1884  I'll see if I can find anything from there.

Maddie

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Hertfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Bushey - Kelly's or similar abt 1878
« on: Friday 05 February 21 11:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Pam
There are 3 mentions of your Richard Pipe in Herts newspapers confirming that he was a fishmonger. From the Watford Observer March 19th 1877, Richard Pipe announces his takeover of the business of Fishmonger & Poulterer from Mr Smith of Bushey. There is also a corresponding announcement from Mr Edward Smith confirming the same.

Herts Advertiser 28 Aug 1880. Richard Pipe a Fishmonger of Bushey was summoned for non payment of rates to Colne Valley Water Company. At the time it would seem he didn't have the money to pay so an order of imprisonment or otherwise could not be enforced, case adjourned for 2 weeks.

Herts Advertiser 20 Dec 1887, Henry Charles Kirby & Richard Pipe Fishmonger of Merry Hill Lane  Bushey were charged with stealing 2 live fowls the property of Lawrence P Fowler. No evidence was offered against Pipe so he would be called as a witness against Kirby.

Hope this helps to confirm he is the Richard Pipe with wife Harriet in the census for 1881 even though his employment says servant. ::)

Regards
Maddie

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Hi
Unfortunately I don't have any information on Frederick's marriage to Martha apart from the fact she was a minor on the cert & her father Tobias was a witness along with an Elizabeth Patchett. I don't know if it's relevant but in 1871 there is a 24 year old Elizabeth Patchett in service to a Susan Gardiner & family at Highbury Place Islington, I wonder if perhaps Martha had also been in service to this family. So sad that she only lived for a couple of months & must have been suffering with TB before the marriage. How she met Frederick is another matter but I did read somewhere that my Emma Beament had been mugged in the street & Frederick dealt with the case which is how they met, if this story is true or not I can't say.!! There were no children to their marriage either.

Be interesting to know if you do find any more info.

Maddie

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Hertfordshire / Re: Look up please. Burial record for William Stone
« on: Sunday 21 June 20 11:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Maggie
You are welcome. You could try contacting Holy Trinity Church, they may be able to help with any grave locations. I see they have a Face Book page so you could be lucky. I contacted Chenies Church a while ago & the Vicar was extremely helpful with burial records. :)

Maddie

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Hertfordshire / Re: Look up please. Burial record for William Stone
« on: Saturday 20 June 20 22:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi

There is a burial for Laura Elizabeth Wheeler Stone aged 49 on July 11 1884 at Holy Trinity Church Northwood & also one for a William Stone aged 63 on Sept 26 1884 at Holy Trinity, both were from Pinner.

Could these be your couple.??

Maddie

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Hi
Could this be the possible marriage for William to Martha Ives in Great Missenden 24 Nov 1784. Martha baptised 9 Nov 1760 Great Missenden to Thomas & Ann, fits with the burial for Martha in 1801.

Possible bapt for William Stephens in Great Berkhamstead 6 March 1764 to John & Ann.  There is a burial for a William in A/L 19 April 1818 but no age given so might not be correct.

Maddie

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Hertfordshire / Re: Where have all the TIMBERLAKES gone?
« on: Wednesday 25 September 19 14:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi & welcome to Rootschat

The 1901 census has a Joseph Timberlake born 1874 in Abbots Langley with wife Eunice Kate nee Simon's living at Hastoe Farm Tring where he is the farm bailiff. Joseph is still at the same farm for the start of WW2, his death is registered in 1942 Berkhamstead which is correct for Tring. Could this be cousin Joe.?? If so it may help to lead back to Bessie Timberlake.

Maddie

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Hi Martin

I do agree that the Joseph Neville born c1804 can't be Mary Ann's father, not unless he had shaved a number of years off his age. ;D As you say though he could be a relative. ???

It does look like you have the correct 1851 for your Edward but there is certainly something not quite straightforward  about his family. :-\  Goodness only knows what his father's name is on the marriage cert, I've looked through as many Lunnons that I can find & there's nothing that even resembles it in the records. I wonder if he made it up, not unheard of back then. :-\  Pity his sister Sarah didn't marry, it would have given you another lead to persue.

Maddie

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Hi Martin
You are welcome, happy to help if I can ;D  I also found that marriage for Joseph & Elizabeth in Ricky which does look  promising, incidentally they had 2 other children in Ricky apart from Mary Ann,  William christened Jan 3 1813 & Ann christened Feb 26 1815. I believe Ann married Samuel Burrows also at St Mary the Virgin Harefield, all the Harefield marriages are on Ancestry under their London records. :)

Not had much luck finding Joseph Neville though, he is quite elusive regarding birth & death although I have a sneaky feeling he may have come from Wooburn but I could be totally wrong. :-\

I see there is an Ann Neville on the 1871 in Wooburn born 1850 who could be the witness at your Rebecca & Edwards marriage, her father is also a Joseph born c1804. :-\

Just out of interest do you have any thoughts on my post on your Edward Lunnon thread regarding my ancestor Susan Brown's marriage to Joseph Lunnon  who may well be connected to your Elizabeth Lunnon. ;)

Maddie

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