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Lancashire / Morrison family Ashton in Makerfield
« on: Tuesday 24 June 08 14:50 BST (UK)  »
I'm having a problem with my ancestors the Morrisons and would like another opinion(s) if possible.

I'll try to keep it simple and in a chronological order..

Elizabeth Lowe married William Morrison in Ashton in Makerfield 24 May 1832.

Margaret Maria Morrison was born 31 May 1834. (no baptism at the time)

Ellen Morrison was born 3 March 1837 second child, second daughter of William and Elizabeth) Occupation of William 'pensioner'.

William Morrison died 23 April 1838. (palsy)

Margaret Maria was baptised 28 July 1839 (Why so late?) I haven't found a death for her.

John Morrison born 14 October 1839 (no baptism) No father on birth cert.

Ellen Morrison died 18 March 1840 (smallpox)

Ann Morrison born 4 June 1842 no father on birth cert. No baptism

William Morrison born 26 July 1848. No father on birth cert.

The residence for all the above events was Whitledge Green Ashton in Makerfield.

Elizabeth Morrison (formerly Lowe) married Thomas Partington 27 October 1850. Residence at time of marriage, Pemberton Wigan. He was 12 years older than Elizabeth. They were given as widow and widower.

Mary Partington born 9 January 1851. Residence, Lodge Lane Ashton. Haven't found a baptism yet.

There are baptisms for a John and Ann Morrison on the IGI in Wigan but when I went over to look at the parish records the father was given as William Morrison, tailor.

On John and Ann's marriage certs. no father is mentioned but I've just found a marriage for William Morrison to Hannah Glover in the parish records where the father is given as William Morrison, Engine Tenter. It must be my William as the witnesses were John Morrison and Mary Partington. I've sent for his marriage cert. to see what it says.

I can't find any of the Morrison family on the 1841 census even though Elizabeth's father, Daniel died at Whitledge Green a week before the census was taken.
There's a Thomas Partington on the 1841 census living in Lowton with his wife, Mary (15 years his senior) and daughter Ann. He was a mule spinner as he was on the marriage cert. Mary's birth cert. and his death cert. But, on the 1851/61 census he's a tea and coffee dealer. That doesn't make sense to me as there's absolutely nothing in common between the two occupations.
I had thought that perhaps Thomas was the father of Mary's children and his wife died just before Mary was born explaining why it was a "shotgun wedding" but I haven't found a death yet for a Mary Partington at that time.

I haven't found a marriage for Elizabeth to another William Morrison
So, what was Elizabeth playing at?
Any ideas?

Regards

French

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Lancashire / Re: Terrific Time line on RootsChat !!
« on: Tuesday 24 June 08 13:14 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for that, it's great work Bob.
Being able to put my ancestors into an historical context is what makes genealogy interesting me.

Regards

French

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Ann Westwick 1761
« on: Saturday 14 June 08 11:07 BST (UK)  »
Don't worry Elin. I'm just very grateful that you haven't forgotten.
Have a good weekend.

French

13
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Ann Westwick 1761
« on: Thursday 05 June 08 19:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi Elin

I'm really grateful for the time and energy you are giving to a total stranger. As I live in France I can't just pop over to visit the records office so you're kind offer  to help is really appreciated.

I'll have a look online at the West Yorkshire records. I've checked out the Wharfdale and Craven site which has some Leeds records, but no trace of Ann Westwick.
As I said before, she married in 1785 so I presume that she was born 1760-65.

Fingers crossed.

Best regards

French.

14
Northumberland / Re: prescot births
« on: Sunday 01 June 08 11:53 BST (UK)  »
That's certainly something to meditate.

French

15
Northumberland / Re: prescot births
« on: Saturday 31 May 08 11:57 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Janis. I suppose it is a mistake. The official birth cert. can't be wrong, can it?

French

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Northumberland / Re: prescot births
« on: Friday 30 May 08 19:20 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the info Jennifer. Why didn't I see that when I looked on the complete BMD on Ancestry???

French

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Northumberland / prescot births
« on: Friday 30 May 08 18:17 BST (UK)  »
I have a problem with the births and christenings of the 2 daughters of Paul Prescot and Ann Brown.

On the IGI I have found Ellen Mary Prescot, born 10 June 1866, christened 30 May 1867 at All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne but I can't find any trace on the BMD records.
Then there's Annie Prescot who, according to the IGI was christened Anne Priscot on 30 May 1869 at All Saints, Newcastle but on her birth certificate she was born 14 July 1870.
Both are extracted records with parents given as Paul Prescot/Priscot and Ann.

I'd be grateful if someone could have a look for the birth of Ellen Prescot and give their advice on what happened to Annie.
I must explain that Paul and Ann Brown weren't married (no trace of a marriage record) as I think that Ann was still married to Thomas Elliott. On the 1861 census she's living in London with Thomas and 2 daughters. In 1871, she's in Sutton, Lancashire with Paul Prescot. She finally married Alfred Jones in Prescot, Lancashire in 1875 under her married name, Ann Elliott. Annie and Ellen are with them on the census in 1881.

She's a complicated person.

Regards

French

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Lancashire / Re: soldier 1813
« on: Thursday 29 May 08 09:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Liz

Joseph's son's place of birth on the census was always given as Bristol which was unusual for a family which had always stayed in the same place.
A kind person from the Bristol area looked up the birth on the parish records and the name and occupation of the father was given 'soldier'. I've now got his marriage and the baptism of his wife with her parents which was a godsend as she that is the only trace I have of her. Joseph went back to Lancashire before 1841 with no wife.

There was a garrison in Bristol at that time with two Lancashire regiments stationed there.

Do you have any other records of children's places of birth?

French

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