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Perthshire / Re: CAMPBELLS IN KILLIN PARISH?
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 18:46 GMT (UK)  »
I am interested in this thread. I believe my ancestor, Robert Halliday (Haliday, Holiday) was baptized in Killin in 1781. I don't have a copy of that record, only of his brother Archibald, baptized in 1786. It reads: Thomas Haliday and Anne Campbell, Clifton, had their lawful son bap. called Archibald. (Clifton was a village within the Parish of Killin whose industry was mining iron-ore, so there is a good chance that Thomas was a miner - Robert, certainly, was a coal miner.).

I don't know if Thomas Haliday was a native of Killin but perhaps Anne Campbell was? On the same page as Archibald's bap. record is that of twins Colin and Jean, children of James Campbell and Katharine Robertson, baptized on November 6th, 1786.(Record reads: "Novr 6th Jas. Campbell & Kat. Robertson, Monimore (aka Monemore) had their lawful twins bap. called Colin & Jean")

So I am looking to find out more about the Haliday and Campbell families of this time. Both Robert and Archibald left Perth for Lanarkshire (perhaps their parents did as well?) where they married and later died.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Tuesday 08 September 20 17:25 BST (UK)  »
David Littlejohn is in the same plot as Margaret, he was aged 64 years and was interred on 16th January 1884. The plot was owned by Archibald Littlejohn.
also in that plot is James aged 20 months, son of David & Margaret, interred 9th February 1872.
I seem to remember that I've given you this information already. The other son John, who was 18 years old, occupation "hostler" rings a bell. I think there was a discussion on the List concerning that occupation?

Yes, Lodger, you probably did! I know there are several threads that are interrelated and you have been (are) a very generous presence on many!!! I often pick branch of my tree to investigate because of some aspect or discovery and, sometimes, when I am looking for a particular bit of information about past relatives, I fall on a Rootschat discussion that wasn’t my initial focus and get hooked. So it’s never a steady climb, information-wise. I suspect that, at some point(s), I was on a roll with the Littlejohns (because you and others provided me with a wealth of information) and then had get back to my work and join the world of the living again!

So indeed, in my files I have a list of Littlejohn related-burials listed under Alexander Sr. Somehow, however, David had escaped my notice when I was reviewing the names in the list; perhaps because hadn’t actually entered his burial place in the proper area in my program, I (thought I) only had the year of his death. Nevertheless, the MIs of the gravestones you posted have allowed me to fill out the Littlejohn tree just that much more. So I apologize for any repeated questions but, on my end, they never turn out to be for naught!!

(And yes) I also have information for James and John – I just looked up hostler” (who knows, maybe "again") – I thought it might be connected to inns (as in the modern “hostels”) not horses (although the definition I found does say, “historical - man employed to look after the horses of people staying at an inn,” so I don’t feel too bad).

So I thank you for your look-ups and your patience!!

Cheers,
Ard

PS Binnie – a relatively recent discovery of a direct ancestor (a marriage at Cannongate, Edinburgh and an entirely different branch of my family). I really don’t have enough to go on to try to connect with anyone– but since it had been the first time I had come across the surname, I found it curious to see it among yours!!



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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Tuesday 08 September 20 17:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Forfarian and Skoosh for enlightening me on the state of military affairs at the time (and the link) - I will explore that more!

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Tuesday 08 September 20 02:27 BST (UK)  »
* And a  question related to British history...really off topic - what affiliation would earn the title "soldier" in the early to mid 19th century?" Anyone?
I would take that to mean that he had served in the army at some point.

With respect to "soldier", I guess what I really want to know was, if James Leggat Sr. was identified as a "soldier", (deceased) on his son's record of death, does that mean "soldier" would have been his full-time occupation or even that he would have likely died as a soldier?  And if that could be the case, I am also unclear on what and where wars may have occurred that a Scottish soldier born in the late 18th century may have fought or died in. And that would  have been with the British army, I guess. I'm not from the UK nor am I very versed in such matters...

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Tuesday 08 September 20 02:22 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Lodger,

Gilkerson? Never heard of that rendition! A great number of Scottish families immigrated to Canada (and elsewhere, of course) and the more I work on tree, the more I realize that many of the children I went to school with had surnames than turn up amongst my own branches. And, it so happens, our next-door neighbours back then happened to be Gilchirsts!

The MIs I requested have links to my family, but they are not direct ancestors but I am always looking for clues(I just looked for names I recognized among the ones you listed). For example, there as a Violet Halliday married George Brownlie in 1856 or Robert Halliday who married a Lilias Paterson... these are just 2 of the many children of Archibald Halliday and Marion Penman who were buried at Carluke (they too are indirect). I'm not sure how Thomas Halliday and Marion Bownlie may be connected to my tree, if at all.

As for Littlejohn, my great-great grandmother's sister, Margaret Dick Halliday, married David Littlejohn. whose parents were, in fact, Archibald Littlejohn and Marion Paterson. (Margaret and David named one of their daughters Marion Paterson Littlejohn). I do have the information for Margaret's burial (also at the old churchyard of Cambusnethan) but I don't know that David was buried there:

MARGARET LITTLEJOHN, Wishaw, aged 79 years, widow.
Parents - John Halliday & Elizabeth Blair Dick.
Interred in the old churchyard on 15th May 1911.

I also have other Halliday relatives who were buried in the new section of the Cambusnethan cemetery (including Margaret's brothers Robert (spouse Marion Allan) and John and two spouses) Although I have no images, I do have the placements etc.) Others of "my" Hallidays appear to have been buried in Carluke, though. However, my great grandmother Agnes and James Leggat III left Scotland and went to Cumberland!

You did definitely identified two children of James jr (although I had written down "wool" merchant rather than "wood'... wonder which would have been more likely. James, born 1841was in fact my direct ancestor  - while Isabelle married a William Watson and another daughter, Janet Gilchrist Leggat married William Ferguson!

I really appreciate you doing these look-ups and providing such detailed information.

Now there is the matter of the surname Binnie that you also have in your tree....  ;)

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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Monday 07 September 20 19:56 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so much, Lodger! I appreciate too the transcriptions!

The following is somewhat off-topic so maybe better as a private message but I thought I'd take a chance (If that is a problem, I apologize and am open to moving it elsewhere):
I just noticed that among your surname interests, you have the name Gilchrist. I was wondering if you had much information about your Gilchrist ancestors and their kin (i.e. whether it was a common family name, whether there were many unrelated families in the area....)

After I sent away for the death record of one of my ancestors (James Leggat, born circa 1817, Cambusnethan according to censuses), I learned that his mothers name Janet  Gilchrist:

James Leggat Fruit dealer married to Jane Frew
died July 25th (1880) Dalziel Fruit House
64 yrs
Father James Leggat, soldier* (deceased)
mother Janet Leggat ms Gilchrist (deceased)
British Cholera, 3 days
inf. Wm Ferguson, son in law.

II don't know where he was buried...
Unfortunately, I cannot find on Scotland's People a birth/bap. record for James jr. (or wether he had siblings) nor a marriage for his parents. So that side of my tree goes no further than James Leggat sr. and Janet Gilchrist. From what I can tell, their descendants seemed to have stayed around the area - Dalziel, Windmill Hill, Hamilton, Old Mondkland, Cambusnethan, Wishaw/Motherwell, etc.   

Based on Scottish naming patterns, I have wondered if Janet's father was Thomas Gichrist and mother (surname unknown), possibly, Agnes, Janet or Charlotte even...?. 

Does that fit anything that you have in your records?

* And a  question related to British history...really off topic - what affiliation would earn the title "soldier" in the early to mid 19th century?" Anyone?




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Lanarkshire / Re: Headstone pictures CAMBUSNETHAN CHURCHYARD WISHAW
« on: Saturday 05 September 20 02:07 BST (UK)  »
Lodger, your contributions are staggering and so appreciated. If you still are offering to share pictures of heastones, these are the ones that I would be interested in!

HALLIDAY & BROWNLIE
HALLIDAY & PATERSON
LITTLEJOHN & PATERSON
LITTLEJOHN & ROBERTSON
LITTLEJOHN & YOUNG

Much thanks in advance,

Ard

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Ireland / Re: Samuel Cowan
« on: Sunday 22 March 20 00:04 GMT (UK)  »
I hadn't noticed, but you're right, hallmark - it is an old post. I actually came across it when searching (via Google) for more about the Boyds in Ballynahinch, where my Boyd ancestors were from... so my posts here might actually get the interest in the Cowan and Boyd families going again; suzyvan - your own interest in it just may be a case in point!  ;)

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Ireland / Re: Samuel Cowan
« on: Saturday 21 March 20 23:29 GMT (UK)  »
Seems this original post was hijacked! I feel it has closed down any response that may/could have come to light,  I am interested in this Samuel Cowan post.
 

Yes, Sorry about that - It was innocent enough  ::) Hopefully the original poster will benefit from some of the research tips!!

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