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Renfrewshire / Re: Cairn of Lochwinnoch
« on: Friday 11 November 22 15:50 GMT (UK)  »
For anyone who is interested, the entire collection has been digitized and can be accessed from here:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/359031?availability=Family%20History%20Library


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Lanarkshire / Re: Wishaw Relief Church Records
« on: Tuesday 23 November 21 05:47 GMT (UK)  »
That information was very interesting and it explains why half the population of Cambusnethan parish had 11 fingers and webbed feet   ;D
That's so funny - I'll have to let my cousin know - she's shown me her "webbed toes"!

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Lanarkshire / Re: Wishaw Relief Church Records
« on: Monday 22 November 21 15:28 GMT (UK)  »
As amazing as ever, Lodger and the Rootschat team! In relation to the Hallidays, I have a little puzzle on my hands. I have already been helped enormously with my related Hallidays on this site but I don't know if I have asked for this one (if I have, forgive me!)

My ancestor was Robert Halliday, married (probably at Crawford) to Margaret Williamson (b.Crawford -1859, Chapel buried Carluke?) and likely brother to Archibald who married Marion Penman.

Robert and Margaret had fewer children, one of which was my direct ancestor John (1804, Crawford-1853, M. Elizabeth Blair Dick 1807-1875). They also had daughters Janet (1806,Crawford -?) and Violet (C1818,?-1839 Chapel, buried Carluke). I figure they must have had other children between 1806-1818 but perhaps they simply didn't survive.

I have that a "Robert Hallowday" husband of Marion (Margaret?) Williamson, Buried 4 March aged 69 years. "Hallowday" seems to be an unusual spelling of the name but I figure this must be my ancestor Robert Halliday. (Margaret was widowed by 1851) Interestingly the same year (1856) there is another Robert Hallowday age 44 (b about 1807) buried 25/03/1851 629/30 435 Carluke ... Both with the same spelling seems more than coincidental! I have been wondering if he might have also been a child of Robert and Margaret. There is a certain continuity of place since later Halliday descendants appear to have been buried in the New Cambusnethan cemetery.

My question,is there anything in the available records that might shed some like on this little conundrum?

Ever grateful (!)

Ard

PS As far as I know, they were for the most part connected to the Relief Church as well....
PPS note: beyond what has already been revealed by: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=566572.117 ...in case there have been new discoveries? ;-)

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Scotland / Re: Portioner
« on: Saturday 13 February 21 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Istrice

I know that it is possible to consult the contents of the documents in Scotland but I live in Canada, so that won't be possible for me to do for a good while yet! I also think that Family Search (the Latter Day Saints organization) may have digitized several volumes (?) but, to my knowledge, these aren't available online, only through their centres, or maybe even only certain ones. A future project, to be sure... One day.....!

ard

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/359031?availability=Family%20History%20Library

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Scotland / Re: Portioner
« on: Saturday 13 February 21 13:15 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Skoosh and Istrice! I always appreciate receiving links and hints 😉 I will definitely check them out, it's actually been a while since I've looked into the event in any depth.

Have a great weekend!

ard

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Scotland / Re: Portioner
« on: Friday 12 February 21 15:10 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Skoosh, I'll look into it! It's becoming increasingly clear that quite a few of my ancestors from that area were in the weaving trade, which becomes all the more significant and interesting in light of the hardships they faced and the subsequent "Insurrection' ... especially considering that several appear to have emigrated around that time.

 I find it particularly fascinating to discover the conditions facing my ancestors in various times and places!

Cheers,

ard

Ardeth

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Scotland / Re: Portioner
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 17:42 GMT (UK)  »
Fascinating, Skoosh!!! Thank you. Is the "Old Glasgow Weavers" a searchable database?

Although his parents had been (mis)identified by early researchers, I long suspected that John McLachlane (a shoemaker) and Margaret Gemmell/Gemmill/Giemle (whose parents were Thomas and Margaret nee Clerk) were the parents of my documented ancestor John McLachlan (a weaver). However, I was only just yesterday able to confirm that hunch by obtaining the image of the "Johnshill Gemmills" page. I was really pleased!

John and Margaret's son John McLachlan (married to Ann Houston) immigrated to Canada through the Paisley Townhead Emigration Society. This was around the time of the "Radical War" aka the Scottish Insurrection of 1820, which I am interested in learning more about. Other family members emigrated also, and I think some Gemmells did as well but Im just beginning to explore this additional branch of the family! ONE DAY I will get over to Scotland to further explore those branches of my family!!

ard


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Scotland / Re: Portioner
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 14:50 GMT (UK)  »
I agree!! I was hoping someone could compensate for my lack of knowledge of the relevant Scots terminology and locations, not to mention my transcription skills! Now I can add Ladymuir to Linthills as a place of interest. This is exciting.

And dowry makes sense too. THANK YOU so much. As for "warper," as soon as I read the proposed transcription and before I read your suggestion, Forfarian, that word popped into my head and I was about to look it up to see if it constituted an occupation. At first, I had wondered if the word was "worker".

There is a lot to unpack even on the image of this single page of the Cairn of Lochwinnoch. Further down, in a passing remark of a scandal (I think) in reference to my ancestor John McLachlan who married Margaret Gemmill, the granddaughter Andro Clerk.  Also, Dr. Andro Crawfurd, author of the precious Cairn) wrote that this John " was famous for his manners, odd etc. and he fed his family on potatoes 3 times a day. Potatoes provocative to incontinence - shakes(?can't really make sense out the rest)"... . How I would love to have access to the volumes he wrote!!!! The two or three pages I have been privileged to see contain such fascinating information!

Thanks again Isabel H and Forfarian for your help in revealing some of the secrets within :-)

ard

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Scotland / Re: Portioner
« on: Thursday 11 February 21 04:42 GMT (UK)  »
Very interesting! I just learned of an ancestor in Scotland named Andro Clerk. I was trying to decipher what was written in the Cairn of Lochwinnoch - and thought I could read "portioner" but it didn't make sense. Now it does, thank you.

There are other words that I can't make out or guess so I figured I would try to put down what I  think I can read, maybe it would someone will recognize what doesn't seem like a word to me .... in case anyone is up for a challenge!

So here goes: Andro Clerk portioner of Linthills and had ymiur (or that might be all one word - a place maybe, Ladymim??) with a tacher of 3000 mark Scots in 1753.

Thanks in advance (Linthills is in or near Lochwinnoch, Renfrewshire, I think)

cheers!


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