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The Common Room / Re: Registration of Shipboard Death
« on: Friday 21 February 20 20:34 GMT (UK)  »
On reflection, a certificate with a common father's name of William may not be very conclusive, although if it gave the place of death as the ship, it certainly would. That's why I wondered if the district was appropriate.

I think the death date comes from a transcribed passenger list, of which there are several online. Sometimes "transcribed" lists add information contributed by family members later. I am reluctant to contact the public tree holders, as most of them have clearly copied and pasted other incorrect information.

The original must be available here somewhere and I will try to find out where I can view it. Online digitised records are so far only available from 1845. The voyage date is correct, as the ship only made one recorded trip to South Australia, and there is a burial record in Feb 1840 for the infant born on the ship in Dec 1839.

Thank you for your suggestions.

Didy

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The Common Room / Re: Registration of Shipboard Death
« on: Thursday 20 February 20 22:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that Pauline. There was no age indicated on FreeBMD. So close, however. Did death certs of the time give any details of relatives?

Didy

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The Common Room / Registration of Shipboard Death
« on: Thursday 20 February 20 17:54 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to confirm a death date for an 18 month old infant Charles Arnold shown on many online family trees as having occurred "at sea" on board the South Australian bound emigrant ship "Moffatt" on 18 August 1839. However, the ship reportedly did not leave London until 26 August.

How likely is it that the death might have been registered in England before the ship's departure? There is a Charles Arnold death registered in the St Olave's district in the Dec quarter and I am considering ordering the certificate. Would this have covered the docks area or am I likely wasting my money? There is no registration under the common alternative spelling of Arnell.

Official registration in the ship's destination did not begin until 1842. However, a Feb 1840 burial for a Charles Moffatt Arnold was for another similarly named child born late in the voyage.

Didy

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Australia / Re: SAGHS index search for unknown surname?
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all for your input. Cupoflife, that is the kind of search I was hoping was possible, but didn't realize I could do it with only an initial letter. I will keep that in mind in future. I should read the fine print a bit more carefully.

As it happens, following advice that seems to have disappeared from view, I have just completed browsing the registered births for all 1348 Edwards, with variations, born between 1850 and 1860. This was possible without entering anything in the surname field, on one of the subscription FH sites.

I found only one Edward registered without a father's name, but this child died nine months later. There was also an Edwin, but I haven't been able to find anything else about him or his mother yet.

I have earlier found a Holy Trinity christening record for an unregistered child, which is a possibility, but will perhaps post it for discussion separately.

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Australia / Re: SAGHS index search for unknown surname?
« on: Wednesday 13 February 19 22:22 GMT (UK)  »
The private school record names only the father.

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Australia / SAGHS index search for unknown surname? COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 13 February 19 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
I am searching for a birth of a son with an unnamed father in order to find the mother's name. I know the father's name, because he acknowledged the son was his, but the son is not registered under the father's surname.

The son was known as Edward Summers, and from his age at marriage and death, he would have been born about 1855, in Adelaide. His father is named on his marriage as Nathaniel Summers. Nathaniel Summers had a son, Henry William, born to his wife Jane Good Whittard in 1850. The couple were separated, and the only surviving reference to Edward's mother in the known family history is that she was "the servant girl". Nathaniel died in 1860, but Edward is not named in his will. Edward was apparently old enough to have been sent to school by Nathaniel, so it is possible he may have been born before 1855.

Assuming his first name is the same, is it possible to look for any Edwards born in the early 1850s without knowing the surname?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Lomehamah? What sort of name is this for a girl?
« on: Friday 15 June 18 14:00 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that useful reference Stan.

Laura Emma - Lo-ruhamah. Jen, I think you're right. Even if you say it slowly (and possibly drop the middle h), it's a good phonetic match. Considering the many variations of the mother's name, Marina, Merrener, Maryannah etc, I think the cleric recording the names did a good job of recording what he heard. It just presents a challenge for us trying to find them later.

Didy

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Lomehamah? What sort of name is this for a girl?
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 21:38 BST (UK)  »
...and you wonder if they really knew what the names meant.

Gomer – Wife of Hosea and a prostitute.  ???

Didy

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Lomehamah? What sort of name is this for a girl?
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 21:31 BST (UK)  »
Stan, I think you've got it - what looks like an m is probably ru.

Can't find her anywhere else and she's not on the 1841 census with the rest of the family.

Groom, that is the family, but the "Gonzalia" looks more like Gomaha to me, which is not far from the sound of her christened name of Gomer. And yet another variation of the mother's name  :)

Thanks all for your help.

Didy

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